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Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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What you're describing is the end of the internet.

Honestly, maybe it’s time to consider that. Saying “oh well, let’s give up on laws because the internet is worldwide and unlimited” doesn’t feel like a good choice to me.

Shutting down all the roads because criminals use them doesn't really make sense. Does the internet equivalent?

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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God this is awful. If you have kids, go talk to them. I've already spoken to mine. Aside from the usual (don't send nudes; be careful on the Internet), I also told them that if something like this does happen, it isn't worth your life: everyone masturbates, it isn't anything shameful and I'll still love you anyway.

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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post #15

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What you're describing is the end of the internet.

It's really not. Facebook making money off of illegal activity conveniently hidden behind national borders is not the cornerstone of the Internet.

You think that argument stops at Facebook? Why won't it apply to the VPNs people use to get around the geofencing on Facebook, to all the other social media platforms, to all messaging services, and so on? Now you've blocked huge swaths of services and fragmented all the platforms.

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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While my heart goes out to all the victims' families, what are platforms like Facebook supposed to do here?

Are they supposed to monitor the content of the chats? Some would call that eavesdropping.

The sad fact is that desperate people exist. And these desperate people are willing to do despicable things to make a buck.

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, maybe it’s time to consider that. Saying “oh well, let’s give up on laws because the internet is worldwide and unlimited” doesn’t feel like a good choice to me.

Shutting down all the roads because criminals use them doesn't really make sense. Does the internet equivalent?

We know how to pretty effectively police roads, but a surprising number of people here seem to think that any amount of internet regulation is impossible. If it's so harmful _and also_ difficult to police, then it's not unreasonable to ask how much death and destruction is too much, is it?

Unless, of course, "it's so hard to regulate" is just a thought-terminating cliché because the SV set also benefits from lax internet laws. But I'm sure it can't be that, no...

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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Sure it is. If a country can’t find and enforce a law or extradite someone for doing such a thing, order the carrier of the extortion messages to block the entire country or charge the message carrier itself, especially if minors are involved. Like if Facebook is being a safe haven for Nigerian extortionists, either they block Nigeria or Australia blocks Facebook.

if they do that they will just use VPNs. you can't stop this no matter what, you just have to educate people and hope they don't fall victim.

"Don't bother enforcing laws because people try to break them" is an express ticket to a Mad Max world. It's also not a particularly interesting or practical solution, and honestly comes off as a little disingenuous.

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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While my heart goes out to all the victims' families, what are platforms like Facebook supposed to do here? Are they supposed to monitor the content of the chats? Some would call that eavesdropping. The sad fact is that desperate people exist. And these desperate people are willing to do despicable things to make a buck.

If Facebook were at all a force for good in this world, maybe I'd agree with you. But given the litany of other social ills they are directly or indirectly responsible for, I'm fairly confident you could nuke them tomorrow and the world would be a better place.

So "Facebook should abort itself" is one option.

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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Black Mirror. S3 E3

Bit different imo. If some scammer sends me my bro's penile pic, I'm gonna delete it and warn him. If the scammer sends me proof he was consuming illegal, immoral CSAM, I'm having a vastly different reaction. The shame is the key to this scam. The intersection of (especially teenaged) insecurity, and America cultures nonsensical relationship to sex and shame, is tragic.

Teenage boys won't necessarily know the distinction between what's shameful and what's illegal, or the bigger political beliefs around CSAM. Don't you think you're perpetuating the fear of sexuality by effectively threating to cause serious harm to teenagers for looking at the wrong kinds of pictures? Why is there such a binary classification of "no shame" and "calling the cops"? Different countries' laws put that distinction in different places. Remember this could be a minor himself who hasn't actually done any harm to anyone.

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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In this day and age, if you fall for something like that, just refuse to pay and say you'll tell people it's an AI fake. I think the days of this sort of scam being very effective are over, or will be soon.

Why do we keep thinking that people will wise up to AI-generated content just because it'll eventually be mass-produced and anyone can do it?

Anyone can write absolutely anything with little check and balance on substance, and MILLIONS still believe tabloids and headlines. We've been able to reliably edit photos/video/film for 80 years with an exponential increase in its efficiency within the last 30 - and we still have millions that would take a photo or video's substance at face-value.

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