There's plenty of great fascinating wild Internet out there. The problem is finding it, since it typically struggles to be heard in a sea of well funded SEO-optimized garbage. It's a discovery problem, above all.
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We need to rewild the internet
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Re: We need to rewild the internet
#52Self hosting is definitely the way toward rewilding the internet. If everyone ran their own blogs, chats, email, etc. and let their systems federate thru protocol rather than on a single platform, the forests will thrive again.
I have the technical capability to host, but I don't want the responsibility or want to spend the time. I don't wanna be interrupted from my actual work or hobbies to fix up my personal hosted stuff. I just want to let someone or some group handle that for me.
Get shared hosting.
Re: We need to rewild the internet
#53Self hosting is definitely the way toward rewilding the internet. If everyone ran their own blogs, chats, email, etc. and let their systems federate thru protocol rather than on a single platform, the forests will thrive again.
I already have plenty of hobbies, though -- the ones I want to write about on my blog. I don't need self-hosting to be a new hobby.
I would love if I could pay a "gardener" to maintain my self-hosted stuff. My hardware (that's one hobby!), my bandwidth, my choice of non-invasive species (informed by consultation with the gardener, which ones they'd like to maintain), but ultimately someone else does the planting, the weeding, the single sign-on integration, the updates.
Re: We need to rewild the internet
#54More people should be tending their "digital gardens" just to have something to curate and share. Bring back the weird, the odd, the deep-dives into topics you never imagined having such detail, bring back the strange animated GIFS, the websites always "under construction", give me your weird, give me your odd, this should be everyone's place to be free.
I was just thinking today that I should just start posting my stuff on a personal site. Photos, blogs, life updates, etc. It gives me that control that I want, and I don't have to worry about Meta, etc trying to monetize it. Plus I get to unplug from those "n liked your post" dopamine hits.
I've thought about building personal site, but the opportunity cost is just too high. The time I spend making a site has to come from somewhere and there just isn't anything I do that I want to take time from.
Re: We need to rewild the internet
#55Self hosting is definitely the way toward rewilding the internet. If everyone ran their own blogs, chats, email, etc. and let their systems federate thru protocol rather than on a single platform, the forests will thrive again.
I wonder if self-hosting away from giant cloud providers like AWS, Azure and GCloud would be better for the internet too.
Self host at home should be much more common than it is…
Re: We need to rewild the internet
#56I'm pessimistic about the likelihood of any new "wild" internet ecologies thriving the way they did in the past.
If you think of hypertext as a medium, it's been pushed to its most logical extreme already. There's not a lot of boundaries to explore.
There are weird places online already, sure. And curiosities still abound. But idk… I wonder if a generation lost in cyberspace is exactly the reason why we are actually so unhappy with the internet writ large.
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
Re: We need to rewild the internet
#57I like:
1. The Neocities random page: https://neocities.org/browse?sort_by=random
2. The Neocities recently updated page: https://neocities.org/activity
3. Status Cafe: https://status.cafe/
4. The MidnightPub: https://midnight.pub/
Re: We need to rewild the internet
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Then there's telegram and discord, full of all kinds of strange stuff I was just about to say this. The new pockets of internet communities are filled with interesting and fun things again. It’s just that a lot of them are for and run by teenagers. As adults, we either feel immediately out of place or just get banned outright. The ones run by adults are incredibly niche focusing on “non-mainstream” interests. Discov…
sad thing is that you need to provide a phone number just to read those telegram and discord groups. 4chan is nothing like it used to be. it is run over by bot posts and shills from various interest groups. the amount of genuine anon posts is quite low.
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Re: We need to rewild the internet
#59Frankly, I'd much rather tend to my real-life garden than any digital metaphor for one. I find it so much more gratifying!
Hardly anyone ever complains that I'm doing it wrong, for starters.
Re: We need to rewild the internet
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can we find shit now? I swear search engines are getting borderline useless. And it's not necessarily their fault, it's just very difficult to find search results these days that aren't lists of affiliate links. And in fairness, this is probably less to do with SEO'ers "gaming" the system and more to do with the fact that all of the content we actually cared about just disappeared behind walled gardens. I abandoned G…
I find shit all the time. Google still works fine for me. I don't know what people on Hacker News are doing that they can never seem to find a single useful result on any search engine, ever.
> I don't know what people on Hacker News are doing that they can never seem to find a single useful result on any search engine, ever.
And they never give specific examples either.