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My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by tasuki »

guax wrote: post #80
tasuki wrote: post #77

> Ultimately, Ms Balan says, she has doggedly pursued the case for so long because she wants to prove her innocence to her son. This... does not make any sense? Like, I don't even know about this case, but it's kind of obvious she was let go because Tesla didn't like to hear what she had to say? Why would her own son of all people think she was guilty?

The sentiment is: I don't want to die and having my son read in the news or be told by others that his mother was a thief. It makes tons of sense.

Ok that's fair.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by PinguTS »

close04 wrote: post #55
PinguTS wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have a brake pedal too, like every car. The brake pedal should override the acceleration like in any ICE car. So, technically I don't see any problem.

> So, technically I don't see any problem If the accelerator getting stuck on a car isn't "technically" a problem then what is? It's a ~3000kg/7000lbs vehicle with 14000Nm/10000lbft of torque and 850HP motor. Whatever your driving style, the expectation is that the car won't accelerate uncontrolled. You may be able to press the brake but then again those extra few fractions of second could make the difference between…

The thing is, as I understand it is not like with the Toyota case that the acceleration is unexpected. In the Toyota case it was unexpected because of a software glitch. Actually, it was never really proven that it was an actual software glitch. Michael Barr just has proven that the complete software was a mess without really looking into that detail.

Here with the Tesla it is, that when you currently pressing the pedal the top can come off. Then when you don't want to press the pedal anymore, it gets stuck. So that is the moment when your reflex normally is to press the other pedal.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by brnt »

mschuster91 wrote: post #83
brnt wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> power, torque, speed, People still care about that?

I'm German, we have Autobahns where you have two choices, either a sustainable speed of 120 km/h and more on long range, or you waste your time stuck behind 80km/h trucks.

I thought it was 3, the left lane was 160+? ;)

More seriously, what car can't do 130km/h sustained?

Range, sure, that's important on electric cars, but the rest? It's been a loooooong time since I heard people really care about that. This isn't the 70ies, where you were sailing the road in your 2CV and hoping for tailwinds.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by FerretFred »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #12
spiderfarmer wrote: post #7

Reportedly, Tesla is having a big issue with their accelerator pedal right now. The thin metal cover of that pedal is not always thoroughly secured and slides off easily, wedging itself into the carpet behind the pedal. This causes the accelerator to be stuck (at high velocity!). https://insideevs.com/news/716031/tesla-cybertruck-stuck-acc... As a Tesla customer, you are part of the QA team. That's what you get when…

"As a Tesla customer, you are part of the QA team." More like a stunt team.

Cheaper than a real QA team and Tesla can ignore you if you come up with something inconvenient.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by npteljes »

Fnoord wrote: post #65
neglesaks wrote: post #11

>"I want to clear my name. I wish Elon Musk had the decency to apologise," is her message to the company’s billionaire boss. Know this: You will never get a narcissist to genuinely apologize.

The amount of children he has (like George Clooney), even multiple women pregnant at the same time [1]. I don't understand why women fall for it, and assume this time it is different. Though maybe that is part of the package deal? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk#Personal_life

People are fallible, simple as that. People fall for all kinds of cons all the time. Sometimes they want to believe, sometimes they have their own incentives, sometimes they specifically seek destructive scenarios. I'm sure there are other reasons as well.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by close04 »

PinguTS wrote: post #92
close04 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So, technically I don't see any problem If the accelerator getting stuck on a car isn't "technically" a problem then what is? It's a ~3000kg/7000lbs vehicle with 14000Nm/10000lbft of torque and 850HP motor. Whatever your driving style, the expectation is that the car won't accelerate uncontrolled. You may be able to press the brake but then again those extra few fractions of second could make the difference between…

The thing is, as I understand it is not like with the Toyota case that the acceleration is unexpected. In the Toyota case it was unexpected because of a software glitch. Actually, it was never really proven that it was an actual software glitch. Michael Barr just has proven that the complete software was a mess without really looking into that detail. Here with the Tesla it is, that when you currently pressing the pe…

> when you currently pressing the pedal the top can come off. Then when you don't want to press the pedal anymore, it gets stuck

That is still very dangerous. Tesla stopped deliveries because it's a big deal.

In some cases you could have literally an arm's length to stop before you kill someone (like just as you back out of a driveway) and the car accelerating even half a second more than you wanted is too much.

I cannot stress enough, this car has high power and extreme torque. It goes from 0-60mph in 2.6s. Even under normal acceleration it will eat quite a bit of extra distance while you react to press the brake. One pedal driving would have braked the moment you took your foot off the accelerator. Normal driving would have at least stopped accelerating. The reason a lot of Tesla drivers were punching through walls and blaming it on the car was because of the stronger than expected acceleration. If that can catch people by surprise, imagine unintended strong acceleration.

You are needlessly finding excuses for something very dangerous.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by t43562 »

neom wrote: post #19
mschuster91 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At this point, how could anyone even contemplate buying from such a scummy company? Sad to say it but Tesla is still miles ahead of the competition in specs (power, torque, speed, range) at the respective pricepoints.

I don't drive, and I've not looked for a while, but just from the car stuff I see on YouTube, surly Hyundai are getting pretty close?

Yes, Tesla are not streets ahead anymore in range. The infotainment is still widely considered to be best but other manufacturers are improving and do well on other metrics which may balance it up for you.

There are also a lot more reasonably priced cars from other manufacturers - depends where you live but there's a lot of choice in Europe/UK now.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by water-data-dude »

bayindirh wrote: post #60
edgineer wrote: post #53

The problem was the driver footwell carpet curling up? Seems like you'd notice it's not staying in place long before it gets stuck under a pedal, no?

Nope. The problem is the accelerator pedal can be telescopic and latch itself under a seam. You either need to remove the seam, or make the pedal non telescopic.

I think that’s a separate issue. The pedal cover coming loose and jamming the accelerator down is a recent issue with the Cybertruck, the article says she raised the carped issue back in 2014.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by Beldin »

chasd00 wrote: post #71
zigman1 wrote: post #13

Its honestly baffling how out of porch Tesla has fallen. I remember the times around when Model S first came out, the security of the car was one of the biggest praises it received. It excelled in crash tests, I don't know if this is still the case, but recently it seems like the car wants to kill you so it can show the developers which process needs improvement. "it is all about deleting just a bit more than you fee…

If Musk didn’t buy Twitter and get tech groupthink subscriber’s undergarments in a twist then Tesla would still be a tech darling. His antics on social media is doing more damage to Tesla’s brand than anything else.

Alternatively, his attention being elsewhere has removed the reality-distortion field around Tesla and they are now being treated as other companies would.
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