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I put my family business on Facebook. Here’s what happened.

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Re: I put my family business on Facebook. Here’s what happened.

#91
One of the most important thing I learned when doing advertising is to not be a pioneer (as the saying goes "they get shot in the back".) Particularly in small business advertising.

If you see your competitors (or people will similar products or services) using a particular medium it's usually a good bet to at least try. But even if you try you have to give it a test of quite a bit of time (and that depends on the product and amount of profit as well and other factors).

A good example of this is "back in the day" yellow page advertising. If you look at what the YP called "a developed" heading (like Plumbers/Printers/Lawyers) you will see many ads year after year that vary in size including many full page ads. So that is a sign that's a good bet for advertising if that's your business. Especially when you find out the high cost. And I built an entire business based upon starting with a small ad in a developed heading in the yellow pages. Ad went in. Calls came in. (Expensive but worth it. Picked up a major account and did it for maybe 10 years until I sold the company). To me it made sense that if year after year small businesses were spending big dollars to be in the YP that was proof that it worked (and to mention again it did work extremely well for me). Of course when your competitors who don't advertise ask you you downplay totally the value and bitch and moan to throw them off the scent.

I would suspect FB works the same way. (In fact that was my experience using fb for a particular product but I can't say I gave it much of a chance though but take that as another data point).

I also had a similar experience with "card decks" those mailers that go out to businesses offering products and services. Worked very well. Sent out a card in multiple decks for a product that others offered and leads came back just like that.

Re: I put my family business on Facebook. Here’s what happened.

#92

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Exactly, case in point: My local sandwich deli has now decided to go all "social media". They have a big sign on the counter saying "please like us on facebook" and when you buy a sandwich the staff ask you if you are on facebook. Something about the whole approach just feels wrong in a way I can't quite put my finger on. It just feels like them asking me to do what is basically a meaningless mechanical chore. I've b…

Auto generate a coupon / QR code for everyone who likes you Then if any of their friends uses that coupon code (by flashing their iPhone at the till) then that original person gets ten points on their loyalty card I think frankly that a social graph is best employed using graphing friendly rewards - mostly that is the social dopamine thing in our brains, but affiliates also work In fact - is this being done?

Indeed. Check out: http://www.urbanpiper.com/fe/business/

Disclaimer: I am the cofounder of this company.

Re: I put my family business on Facebook. Here’s what happened.

#94
The key to success on social media is to have a product, service or person that people want to connect with. No amount of marketing or messaging will change that.

I don't foresee B2B businesses doing that well on social media, particularly in such a dull area. I don't think FB is to blame for this.

Part of my responsibilities are to manage social media for my company. We don't do ads on Facebook or Twitter, and the likes and followers keep coming in. We have consumer facing products. My strategy certainly amplifies our success on social media, but I couldn't do much without something strong to build around.

He would have more success with Google AdWords and a strong Web presence in general. We run Google AdWords, and I'm pleased with the results. We've never strongly considered ads on FB or Twitter.

Re: I put my family business on Facebook. Here’s what happened.

#95
What I find interesting about Facebook pages is the brutal honesty that consumers can sometimes share (as the brand watches frantically and tries to do damage control on comments). It's like the opposite of smart advertising: giving every prospective customer an easy place to go see what people really think. For example some new diet beverages set up pages, and after reading enough comments about how horrible the drinks tasted I never needed to buy even one to try myself.

Re: I put my family business on Facebook. Here’s what happened.

#96
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"I made $100,000 with Facebook ads in 3 months". Would you like to hear how? (True story by the way.) But like you said, people are reluctant to share successes, by fear of being copied.

Yes, I would like to hear how.

You convince people to give you 100 dollars to teach them how to make 100K in three months using ads on Facebook.

Re: I put my family business on Facebook. Here’s what happened.

#97
I've seen a lot of these articles about the effectiveness of facebook ads in the months leading up to - and now in the days following - the ipo. The recent ones sometimes come across as articles by people who are short the stock, trying to encourage a sell-off. Most of the time, they come across as people simply justifying to themselves why they will not or do not own shares in the company. And it's perfectly fine to write about why you won't buy facebook stock.

It's just interesting the amount of noise that goes along with the public markets. You have to take articles/news with an even bigger grain of salt when a public company is involved in the noise. You just don't know peoples' motives. I'm not saying that I think this guy is short FB, I'm just saying its possible, and that I didn't see as many of these articles one or two years ago, even though millions of SMEs were trying their hand at facebook ads back then.

Re: I put my family business on Facebook. Here’s what happened.

#99

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Exactly, case in point: My local sandwich deli has now decided to go all "social media". They have a big sign on the counter saying "please like us on facebook" and when you buy a sandwich the staff ask you if you are on facebook. Something about the whole approach just feels wrong in a way I can't quite put my finger on. It just feels like them asking me to do what is basically a meaningless mechanical chore. I've b…

Admittedly, I'm not a huge Facebook user, so maybe this is ignorance on my part, but... If you're already in the store buying a sandwich, why are they even promoting the Facebook account? When I buy a car, the salesman doesn't ask me to go watch their commercial on TV afterwards. Does the number of "likes" factor into how often their ads get served?

By liking them, you're advertising them. Your "like" factors into your friends getting an update saying "jlarocco likes the Super Sandwich Stall", and thinking "huh, I should go and try that place".

It's somewhat meaningless now, admittedly: I might not speak for everyone, but I've basically tuned out anyone "liking" anything on Facebook as white noise.

Re: I put my family business on Facebook. Here’s what happened.

#100
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theoretically yes, but in reality it isn't that simple. Through Facebook insights I can see that for a post we made last week (to the page with 100k likes that I mentioned above) was shown in the timelines of 20,000 people and was "engaged" by just under 400 (this means they either "liked", clicked the link or shared or commented on it). So while it isn't "nothing" it's substantially less than you would expected.

Put another way, you got 400 customer interactions for free , many resulting in additional sharing of your content. Isn't that worth something in a world where an Adwords clickthrough can cost $10+?

All the sharing in the world isn't worth anything if people don't actually buy.
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