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My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by philistine »

cjk2 wrote: post #29
the-lazy-guy wrote: post #26

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This does not sound as bad as you want it to. Last time I checked, Boeing was responsible roughly for the half of all flights worldwide and fligths are 3 orders of magnitude safer than car trips.

That's not the metric I am comparing. I am comparing safety culture. A bad safety culture has the propensity to do serious harm to people and should be called out. When a business, read Boeing/Tesla/Toyota, cover up safety claims they can no longer be trusted with any decision where your safety is considered. That applies to being the victim of a safety outcome as well i.e. you do not own the product but it hurts you…

The whole Toyota episode with the phantom acceleration does not equate with a bad company culture. The problem was too complex and complicated for the company to grok, and they had unbelievably bad PR.

I mean, most of the Toyota incidents are of people in a new car, who messed up pedals. It happens, do not discard it!

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by [deleted] »

chasd00 wrote: post #71
zigman1 wrote: post #13

Its honestly baffling how out of porch Tesla has fallen. I remember the times around when Model S first came out, the security of the car was one of the biggest praises it received. It excelled in crash tests, I don't know if this is still the case, but recently it seems like the car wants to kill you so it can show the developers which process needs improvement. "it is all about deleting just a bit more than you fee…

If Musk didn’t buy Twitter and get tech groupthink subscriber’s undergarments in a twist then Tesla would still be a tech darling. His antics on social media is doing more damage to Tesla’s brand than anything else.

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Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by mschuster91 »

brnt wrote: post #73
mschuster91 wrote: post #14

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> At this point, how could anyone even contemplate buying from such a scummy company? Sad to say it but Tesla is still miles ahead of the competition in specs (power, torque, speed, range) at the respective pricepoints.

> power, torque, speed, People still care about that?

I'm German, we have Autobahns where you have two choices, either a sustainable speed of 120 km/h and more on long range, or you waste your time stuck behind 80km/h trucks.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by JeremyNT »

saagarjha wrote: post #63
cmsj wrote: post #42

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Yep, the brake pedal will cut the throttle, but the throttle will fully re-engage when you lift the brake pedal again, so controlled manoeuvring of the car becomes extremely difficult.

imo I would hit the brakes and coast to the side the road as soon as possible, then turn off the car.

The driver in the video I saw demonstrating the Tesla issue mentioned he was able to brake and stop the vehicle successfully.

The problem is, you don't know when a failure is coming (or more realistically, for most people, they aren't even aware that such a failure mode is possible). It's tough to guess how people respond when panicking, even if their rational brains could devise a solution given a little time to think about it.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by gilbetron »

Fnoord wrote: post #65
neglesaks wrote: post #11

>"I want to clear my name. I wish Elon Musk had the decency to apologise," is her message to the company’s billionaire boss. Know this: You will never get a narcissist to genuinely apologize.

The amount of children he has (like George Clooney), even multiple women pregnant at the same time [1]. I don't understand why women fall for it, and assume this time it is different. Though maybe that is part of the package deal? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk#Personal_life

I thought George Clooney only has two kids.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by Fnoord »

gilbetron wrote: post #85
Fnoord wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of children he has (like George Clooney), even multiple women pregnant at the same time [1]. I don't understand why women fall for it, and assume this time it is different. Though maybe that is part of the package deal? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk#Personal_life

I thought George Clooney only has two kids.

I was wrong that one, my bad. I tried to find sources on this and only hearsay that he has more.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by 93po »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #7

Reportedly, Tesla is having a big issue with their accelerator pedal right now. The thin metal cover of that pedal is not always thoroughly secured and slides off easily, wedging itself into the carpet behind the pedal. This causes the accelerator to be stuck (at high velocity!). https://insideevs.com/news/716031/tesla-cybertruck-stuck-acc... As a Tesla customer, you are part of the QA team. That's what you get when…

Why is this relevant to the posted story?

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by EasyMark »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #7

Reportedly, Tesla is having a big issue with their accelerator pedal right now. The thin metal cover of that pedal is not always thoroughly secured and slides off easily, wedging itself into the carpet behind the pedal. This causes the accelerator to be stuck (at high velocity!). https://insideevs.com/news/716031/tesla-cybertruck-stuck-acc... As a Tesla customer, you are part of the QA team. That's what you get when…

Fail early, fail often, but always fail forward. I didn't think it was supposed to be taken literally...

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by LinuxBender »

JeremyNT wrote: post #84
saagarjha wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

imo I would hit the brakes and coast to the side the road as soon as possible, then turn off the car.

The driver in the video I saw demonstrating the Tesla issue mentioned he was able to brake and stop the vehicle successfully. The problem is, you don't know when a failure is coming (or more realistically, for most people, they aren't even aware that such a failure mode is possible). It's tough to guess how people respond when panicking, even if their rational brains could devise a solution given a little time to thi…

Sounds like a need for a "chaos testing mode" where the driver intentionally drives to an empty parking lot and presses the "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" and enters a password after accepting a bunch of waivers, disclaimers. Then the car does random things and the driver has to react to each thing after having taken a course on "Here are all the known knowns and known unknowns, minus the unknown unknowns". If this does not exist, then I want it to and videos must be uploaded somewhere we can all watch. Please make this happen.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by EasyMark »

chasd00 wrote: post #69
aqme28 wrote: post #66

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Being forced to brake while driving can also be very dangerous. How is this not a problem? And I think you're misusing the word "technically" here.

Braking is fundamental to driving, how is it dangerous? If the gas pedal was stuck to the floor and I was on the highway my first instinct would be to stomp on it a few times to get try and get it dislodged. If that failed, I’d put it in neutral, brake, and pull over somewhere out of the way.

braking will succeed if you're on a straight aways most of the time. But on slick roads, curves, etc it can be quite dangerous.

Model S & Model X 2021+

Since there is no gear stalk on the 2021+ Model S and Model S, you’ll need to tap the car icon to go to Controls, then tap and hold the Neutral button. This will engage your car into Neutral.

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