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California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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Re: California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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But the government is closing down the nuclear power stations so we'll be back to gas and coal soon enough!

They will import from the French grid like all French neighbours that abandoned their nuclear programs.

Which is good for both France and those countries.

Re: California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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I know a lot of people are disparaging the 100% number but I think the article is more about indicating that this is the inflection point as renewables and batteries are still getting cheaper and more installations are happening.

Yes, exactly. Renewables keep achieving new milestones, keep not only growing but also accelerating, and we haven't seen any indication they have a weak point except the obvious variability of production.

But the falling costs, the simplicity and the very low maintenance costs will trump variability. The grid will be built around that, it's kind of obvious at this point. One of the fastest growing solar areas in the world is Texas which has very loose rules on what you can deploy to the grid. So if you leave it to the market, it will only deploy renewables and storage. Everything else is dead until we reach a point where renewables meet their limitation. But again, this hasn't happened yet in 30 years of poor predictions on what those limitations are.

Re: California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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Why is that a concern if already over 66% of energy is made of renewable sources?

Nuclear helps to reliably produce electricity when there is a peak demand or renewable has a problem producing (no sun, draught)

Nuclear bomb can produce peaks of energy, while nuclear stations are good for base load only due to safety reasons.

Re: California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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For a few minutes at low demand time. These kinds of over-grand claims are seriously harmful to the cause of promoting renewables because it makes it seem like we’re almost there and can stop caring. Just look at the excellent, accurate, and up-to-the-hour charts put out by the electricity market itself and you will see where and when the challenges we face still are. https://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/supply.…

Nice link. At this specific moment in time, natural gas is 19.9%, nuclear is 5.6%, and here's the great lie imports are 38.5%. There's no telling what the source of that imported energy is.

So, at four and a half hours before sunrise.

The big driver of renewables in California is solar - check the graph for the whole of yesterday, and you'll see how different the picture is during the day.

Yes, there's still a gap overnight which over time will come to be filled by more wind and battery storage. But California's really lucky with solar - it's already so cheap and easy that it makes battery storage financially viable even using today's tech. It's now just a matter of continuing to scale it out...

Re: California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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I'd like to thanks the German government's policies for the past decades for making me pay absurd electricity prices since the Russian invasion started, even though I live in Sweden with 90+% of renewable electricity generation I'm forced to pay the highest spot price in the EU (aka, gas in Germany) because of Germany's decision to burn coal and gas all the way into 2022... The inertia on modernising Germany is start…

> I live in Sweden with 90+% of renewable electricity generation Except sweden isn't self sufficient at all with electricity… Can I really say that I'm 100% renewable if I have a tiny solar panel at home, and for the rest I use power from somewhere else?

How do you figure that?

Sweden exported electricity almost every hour for 2023 (import 40 hours of 8760 = 0.5%). Most of the hours when importing electricity was due to low and negative prices when operators could use water reservoirs as batteries. Currently, there is an obvious overcapacity with an export of almost 20% of production.

Re: California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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But the government is closing down the nuclear power stations so we'll be back to gas and coal soon enough!

They will import from the French grid like all French neighbours that abandoned their nuclear programs.

Same old, same old. In an interconnected grid, everyone is importing and exporting from and to everyone. Germany (which you are referring to), is still an exporter of electricity.

Re: California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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But the government is closing down the nuclear power stations so we'll be back to gas and coal soon enough!

Not until 2035 at least https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Spain That's 10 years to build alternatives assuming no further extensions or new nuclear.

If they approved a replacement nuclear project today it wouldn't be live in 10 years though.

Re: California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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It's flat on all sides though. https://www.tvo.fi/en/index/news/pressreleasesstockexchanger... Nuclear makes for square supply curves which are kind of hard to handle, especially if you have a large percentage of your supply from a few reactors like they do in Finland.

Can't the control rods allow the output to be controlled?

It will take hours, at least. Nuclear is sloooooooooow. You can make it hot very quickly, but it will take hours to days to cool down. Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant finally turned cold this month, 2 years after start of full scale Russian invasion and occupation of the plant.

Re: California exceeds 100% of energy demand with renewables over a record 30 days

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Nuclear helps to reliably produce electricity when there is a peak demand or renewable has a problem producing (no sun, draught)

Nuclear bomb can produce peaks of energy, while nuclear stations are good for base load only due to safety reasons.

A nuclear power plant does not suddenly give you the capacity to create a nuclear bomb.
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