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Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by jrpt »

southernplaces7 wrote: post #16

As is the case with just about all tech service offerings these days, whether they charge you or not, my first question is: How much of the info it extracts from me to provide me with this service is it going to hoard and then resell to others for the sake of "improving user experience" or some other bullshit justification for extracting more money. The ugly thing is that this vast privacy invasion and resell has bec…

The CEO said on Twitter: "In fact, we built Confidential Cloud in such a way that only you can decrypt your data. Your employer, we as software providers, and the government cannot decrypt your data without your permission, even with a subpoena to do so."

So I think a monthly subscription is the business model, not ads.

Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by binary132 »

southernplaces7 wrote: post #16

As is the case with just about all tech service offerings these days, whether they charge you or not, my first question is: How much of the info it extracts from me to provide me with this service is it going to hoard and then resell to others for the sake of "improving user experience" or some other bullshit justification for extracting more money. The ugly thing is that this vast privacy invasion and resell has bec…

It practically reads as satire it’s so on the nose.

Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by lostmsu »

dsiroker wrote: post #18

(I'm the co-founder & CEO of Limitless) We are so honored this hit the front page of HN! Here's the video announcement: https://twitter.com/dsiroker/status/1779857843895599383 And timestamps to moments in the video you might be interested in: 0:06 Reveal 0:48 Why Limitless? 1:39 Demo 3:05 Pendant 4:27 Privacy 5:23 Confidential Cloud 6:36 Rewind 7:12 Roadmap 9:25 Vision

What's the summary for vision? Is there going to be a device?

Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by pebblesun »

Given how new this product is, shouldn't trailer focus on what it does and how to use it in daily lives, rather than showing off different colors and finish of the product? With iPhones, Pixels, I can understand this focus. No one needs to explain what they do. Not this one. This the first time I am hearing/seeingyou. So, show me what you can do. Not what colors or material you're made with.

Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by nihaals »

jrpt wrote: post #61
southernplaces7 wrote: post #16

As is the case with just about all tech service offerings these days, whether they charge you or not, my first question is: How much of the info it extracts from me to provide me with this service is it going to hoard and then resell to others for the sake of "improving user experience" or some other bullshit justification for extracting more money. The ugly thing is that this vast privacy invasion and resell has bec…

The CEO said on Twitter: "In fact, we built Confidential Cloud in such a way that only you can decrypt your data. Your employer, we as software providers, and the government cannot decrypt your data without your permission, even with a subpoena to do so." So I think a monthly subscription is the business model, not ads.

I do think they’re unlikely to sell user data, but it’s important to note that their privacy claims aren’t true and it would be possible for them to[1].

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40044348

Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by ametrau »

bigfudge wrote: post #4

I really wish someone would make a pendant like this which is focussed on local-only use. It could connect to a mobile app or computer for transcription and summarisation, but using local models or an API key that the use chooses. I would pay serious money for a device high quality that did this (>$500) if it was backed by open-source platform/infrastructure for processing the managing the audio. Even better if it wa…

I have been wanting this since I first used whisper and saw it’s capability. Nothing you can buy off the shelf is sufficient at the moment and if you diy it’ll be too big.

Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by nihaals »

Jonovono wrote: post #10
Rebelgecko wrote: post #9

It sounds like this is killing/replacing Rewind

He said it's what they will be focusing on, but that they will continue to support Rewind

Since the start of February, Rewind seems to have had 3 PRs merged for macOS (they auto deploy on new commits to main for both iOS TestFlight and macOS) and it’s had known bugs that have been around for months so I’m not holding my breath. Hopefully it’s at least updated for new macOS releases but I’m expecting an announcement in the future saying it won’t be supported anymore or it just not getting any updates for a year.

Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by tky »

dsiroker wrote: post #34
cakeface wrote: post #28

Aren't there wiretapping laws that make recording conversations in certain situations illegal? I love the idea of this type of technology but it seems tricky to deploy from a moral and legal perspective.

That's why we are going to offer Consent Mode. Consent Mode makes it possible for the first time ever to only capture the voice of people who have given consent to be recorded. It uses voice identification to determine who is speaking and verbal opt-in to make it frictionless to ask for consent. Here's a direct link to the timestamp of the announcement where we show how Consent Mode works: https://twitter.com/dsiroke…

I'm sure you've considered how the BIPA law in Illinois applies since it's one of (if not the) strongest biometrics privacy laws in the U.S. Could you share some detail on how you store and process unknown voices before consent?

For context, this is BIPA: https://law.justia.com/codes/illinois/chapter-740/act-740-il... and it's why Facebook, Google, and others have sent fairly large settlement checks to Illinois residents over the last few years.

Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by janalsncm »

ooterness wrote: post #40
janalsncm wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m gonna doubt they’re operating AI on encrypted cloud data. In other words, there’s no technical reason they couldn’t be listening to your conversations. If these guys have accomplished homomorphic encryption they shouldn’t be building a wearable, they should be licensing their IP to Apple.

It's encrypted, but they have the keys. Wouldn't want anyone else to access the data without paying the toll, after all.

There’s three options:

1. The data is encrypted and they can’t operate on it in the cloud. 2. The data is not encrypted. 3. The data is encrypted and they have built a state of the art homomorphic encryption algorithm for their AI to operate on.

I’m going to guess it’s #1, not #3.

Re: Limitless: Personalized AI powered by what you've seen, said, and heard

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Post by janalsncm »

jrpt wrote: post #61
southernplaces7 wrote: post #16

As is the case with just about all tech service offerings these days, whether they charge you or not, my first question is: How much of the info it extracts from me to provide me with this service is it going to hoard and then resell to others for the sake of "improving user experience" or some other bullshit justification for extracting more money. The ugly thing is that this vast privacy invasion and resell has bec…

The CEO said on Twitter: "In fact, we built Confidential Cloud in such a way that only you can decrypt your data. Your employer, we as software providers, and the government cannot decrypt your data without your permission, even with a subpoena to do so." So I think a monthly subscription is the business model, not ads.

This side steps the question though. Transcription isn’t happening on the device, which means your raw audio is sent off to someone else’s computer. Whether or not it is finally stored in some secure manner is irrelevant at that point.
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