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Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

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Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

#271
Reminded me of the last verse of a French fable, The Cricket (a.k.a True Happiness):

    "Pour vivre heureux, vivons cachés."

    - Jean-Pierre Claris de Florian - Le Grillon†, Fables, 1792
Here's my quick-and-dirty attempt at a translation:

    Poor little cricket
    Hidden in grass flowery
    A gliding butterfly
    Beheld in the prairie.
    The winged insect of bright colours shining;
    Cerulean, gold, crimson burst on his wings;
    Young pretty little master, he runs flower to flower,
    Taking and leaving every which is prettier.
    
    Ah! Said the cricket his fate and mine
    Are quite not alike! Mother Nature
    Gifted him all, and to myself nothing.
    Of talent bereft, of face even less.
    Disregarded down here, none take notice:
    I just as much might not exist.
    
    As he rambled, in the prairie
    A childish troupe comes happily:
    Chasing they are hastily
    The butterfly they so envy.
    Hats of all sorts to catch their game;
    The insect twists and swerves in vain,
    And soon enough becomes their prize.
    
    A wing taken, a body seized,
    A head now gone, a swift demise:
    Little effort has it taken
    To tear apart the beast fallen.
    
    Oh! Oh! Cricket said, I am no more irate;
    Too high a price it is to shine.
    How I will love my deep retreat!
    To live happy, live discreetly.
https://www.laculturegenerale.com/le-grillon-fable-jean-pier...

Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

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This suggests what they’ve become is desirable - it’s not.

Are you saying that achieving what these two men have achieved is not desirable? Becoming the most powerful or the richest person in the world? I’d say that’s very much desirable, to most people.

Maybe in abstract. I doubt the majority of people have considered those positions in more detail than "wouldn't it be nice if no one could tell me what to do?", or "wouldn't it be nice to never worry about money ever again?".

Close proximity to a bunch of tech executives very quickly cured me of any illusion that I wanted to belong to that in-group. Most already with more money than they knew how to spend, and still pulling 100-hour work weeks in service of the grind... shudders

Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

#273

This is beautiful. Thank you. I think people don’t understand how important just being there for your family actually is. Sometimes it’s enough just to be reliable, stand for good and just be present. Sounds like he really knew it.

A Rick Roderick quote comes to mind; "" Now, I hate the movie The Big Chill, let me make that clear, and I hope I can’t be sued for hating a movie, I hate The Big Chill, because it’s about members of my generation, all of whom have become swine. The only person in the movie I like is dead when the movie starts, and they are having his funeral, and the old preacher says something quite profound. He asks the crowd of y…

Interesting. I recently rewatched "The Big Chill" and wrote a reflection about the movie vs the internet age:

https://amontalenti.com/2023/12/28/the-blog-chill

Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

#274

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Lmao at everyone else coping about how the housing crisis is really not that bad

You might have missed that the story is about a man that owned a house in rural North Carolina, where, like many rural areas in the US, it's still possible to purchase houses for 200-300k. Living in a dense, urban environment close to all the expensive 'luxuries' is exactly the type of life eschewed by the subject of the story.

Did you reply to the right comment? Im not really sure where i said anything advocating living in a dense, urban environment close to all the luxuries

Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

#275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A Rick Roderick quote comes to mind; "" Now, I hate the movie The Big Chill, let me make that clear, and I hope I can’t be sued for hating a movie, I hate The Big Chill, because it’s about members of my generation, all of whom have become swine. The only person in the movie I like is dead when the movie starts, and they are having his funeral, and the old preacher says something quite profound. He asks the crowd of y…

Interesting. I recently rewatched "The Big Chill" and wrote a reflection about the movie vs the internet age: https://amontalenti.com/2023/12/28/the-blog-chill

Enjoyed that very much, as I do all small blog pieces written with heart. Good to read your contrast of Big Chill with Roderick's take. (He's a serious joker, for me a kinda Bill Hicks who took the job title philosopher instead of stand-up comedian)

> they are only honest with themselves about this in the private setting

I'm sure you're aware of the phase "social cooling" [0] TBH I am astonished by the extreme difference between the thoughts I hear expressed in real life, and those "safe" ones people put online now. Things have completely flipped. 20 years ago we put our edgy personas online and kept IRL reserved and acceptable. Other than on 4chan etc, which are performance dramas, people have it the other way about now. So you're right; there is a "big chill" in blogging, but a counter out there in the streets and bars.

> I feel a chill coming over my desire to write and publish freely on the internet

Seriously, don't let the bastards get you down :) Don't get me wrong I love code (python too :) and I love writing about my own corner of comp.sci (DSP), but in 50 years if anyone's still here to read, which are the essays they will still care about? That thought only gives me more courage, in a way what I'm writing [1] is for "the survivors", not the audience out there now.

[0] https://www.socialcooling.com/

[1] https://cybershow.uk

Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

#276
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It isn’t, but it has similar uses. With more money you have more time. not needing to wait in line at a check cashing or payday loan office, not needing to wait in the ER because you can’t afford primary care, not needing to get your car fixed every year because you can afford one with fewer miles. There’s a lot of hidden time costs if you’re not well off.

Hell just the time sink of using a laundromat with defective machines vs filling up your own machine and moving over loads when it’s convenient for you

Wow yes exactly this. Didn’t even think about laundromats

Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

#277

I’ve met and seen a lot of people in life and while it’s nearly impossible for a life to be stress-free, the content and successful people I’ve seen — poor, rich, whatever — seem to share one commonality: they found their passions in life, whether be it running a successful company, working with charity, hanging with neighborhood inline skate friends or raising cattle in the country side, and they get to do it nearly…

This feels like circular logic, assuming “your passion” means a pastime that will make you happy.

Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

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Beautiful writing. It comes at an interesting time for me. I'm in a full blown mid-life crisis where my state of mind fluctuates between full contentment and wishing I was doing more with life. This article made me think. On the one hand, I'm content because I come from an unprivileged background. My family was abusive. Me and my brothers struggled with mental health. We ran away from home as soon as we could. Where…

Have you considered getting into art? I find art projects to be big motivator and fills me with ambition. The great thing is I do it for myself so I can feel content knowing I don't need to fulfill the needs of an audience. You can be ambitious as you want. Making concrete sculptures, woodworking,oil painting, restoring old furniture, developing a game (physical or digital), writing short stories, researching and wri…

I tried getting into some forms of art (mostly drawing) many times, but in the end I always find it contrived and pointless. Basically a more taxing version of playing bingo to pass the time.

Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

#279
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But then, he also had to serve in war. Medical care was not that advanced, you couldn't read about any niche topic you want online. Easy to see things through rose tinted glasses.

I wonder how many people would happily trade access to the web for a world where a laundry truck driver can afford a house. I imagine it's quite a lot.

Not me.

Buying a house comes with a lot of responsibility and you basically give up any freedoms to be able to pay your mortgage, saved up for any repairs, and hope that a natural disaster doesn't wipe out your largest investment.

Comparatively, we're at the best time to be alive in history. I don't even know where the person I'm replying to lives, but I don't they will receive this message almost instantly.

I can learn about anything I want to, whenever I want.

I can travel almost anywhere without fear of getting lost.

I can order exotic things that I'd never see sticked on local shelves at the click of a mouse.

Life is pretty convenient and amazing and I'm okay sacrificing stress-filled homeownership for other luxuries.

(Not that we should have to, mind you, but that wasn't the question posed.)

Re: Obituary for a quiet life (2023)

#280

Beautiful writing. It comes at an interesting time for me. I'm in a full blown mid-life crisis where my state of mind fluctuates between full contentment and wishing I was doing more with life. This article made me think. On the one hand, I'm content because I come from an unprivileged background. My family was abusive. Me and my brothers struggled with mental health. We ran away from home as soon as we could. Where…

I agree. Very similar situation; I can't help but feel like I am the middle-aged trope in movies; best of luck finding the answer; if you do, please share!
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