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AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree. Though today it's sharper, tomorrow you ask for the plot to be changed or for everyone to be wearing spinny hats. At least there's a shared experience now. If people find this outrageous, just wait until tomorrow. Better to accept the infinite progress unfolding before us than to spend another moment angry or enraged. All I ask for is choice.

Or perhaps removing all the cigarettes? On second thought, that could be hilarious. It would make all the smokers just look like very thoughtful people constantly bringing their fingers to their lips.

https://twitter.com/Tuckerpete/status/1569478529892646913

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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post #9

I think this kind of AI "enhancement" is where CGI was in the 90s. It might be state of the art tech, but it's still very unrefined, and in ten or twenty years these remasters will look painfully dated and bad.

I dunno – I look at the original Jurassic Park and it still looks pretty amazing to me. Same with Terminator II. In many ways I feel like as directors got more and more capabilities with the tools they became comically overused. I don't think it's the sophistication of the tools, but the way that they're wielded that will make them look dated, or timeless.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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The "AI" versions of the movie stills are darker and "greener" or "bluer" in all cases in this article, which is NOT the case when you watch the movie. It's a mistake on the part of whoever put together the image comparisons. The culprit here is that the non-AI screenshots are taken from presumably 1080p non-HDR sources, while all the AI screenshots are taken from presumably 4K HDR sources. The "AI" images are all di…

Glad you pointed that out, because literally all the “after” images look dreadful.

But then im also of the opinion that most HDR content is too damn dark anyway.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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My biggest gripe with these AI film enhancements is that they are adding information that was never there. You're no longer watching the original film. You no longer have a sense of how contemporary film equipment worked, what its limitations were, how the director dealt with those limitations, etc.

> how contemporary film equipment worked, what its limitations were, how the director dealt with those limitations, etc. Non-film buffs, i.e. most viewers, don't care about this.

I agree, most people watch the movie for the story that unfolds. Few are looking at things like framing the subject, the pull of the focus, subtle lighting differences between scenes, they are interested in the story, not the art of filmmaking. The people offended by this are the ones that are crying about the art being taken out of it.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

#66

My biggest gripe with these AI film enhancements is that they are adding information that was never there. You're no longer watching the original film. You no longer have a sense of how contemporary film equipment worked, what its limitations were, how the director dealt with those limitations, etc.

The originals still exist and you’re free to watch those instead.

This just provides a new way to watch older movies should you choose to do so. Or not.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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post #12

Repaint the product, sell it as new again.

I don't see anything wrong with selling an upscaled film as a new product, if it's done well. Doing a decent upscale isn't trivial, and quality is often improved significantly. Like anything, not all upscaled re-releases are of worthwhile quality.

Repainting takes effort too. But it's so vastly less effort than the original. Charging the new customer price to previous owners sucks.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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‘This is not right! You’ve removed all of this stuff! If the negative is scratched, then we should see that scratch.’ People were really hard-core about it.”

Dat me! But I shoot and process film on a home made camera, sometimes intentionally degrading the film, or processing without times, or mountain dew instead of water.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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Why is Arnold's head slightly larger in the AI version of the first screenshot? The ears do not align.

Whatever the case, my wife and I went to see The Lost Boys the other day and it was grainy and blurry compared to the super-sharp previews and I just wouldn't have it any other way.

Restoration is one thing. "Improving" it by smearing statistical filter juice over it is quite another.

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