Does anyone know the story from Gruber's side?
Dan Benjamin: Regarding The Talk Show
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Re: Dan Benjamin: Regarding The Talk Show
#52Gruber is taking a page out of the Apple PR book by not saying anything, unless there is something good to be said. This may help move the news cycle along but it's still no way to treat a friend.
He's not exactly "not saying anything". The top link on DF ("Why wasn't I consulted", a 16-month old piece) could be interpreted as a reply.
Follow the attribution link and read: "Apropos of nothing. Ahem."
Re: Dan Benjamin: Regarding The Talk Show
#53All good things come to end. Well...
Re: Dan Benjamin: Regarding The Talk Show
#54Who listens to IT podcasts? the world is full of rich and wonderful media broaden your horizons, listen to something that isn't backdated garbage. Imagine all the music genres you could discover, educational materials, languages you could learn, audiobooks ..
Hypercritical (by 5by5) is actually very good.
Amazingly, you argue that people should broaden their horizons (i.e. don't be closeminded) and yet you blindly dismiss IT podcasts completely as back-dated garbage. Discarding whole categories of self-expression/content as crap is the very definition of close-mindedness. Oh, the irony.
Maybe people listen to IT podcasts because they like to. It needs no further justification.
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Re: Dan Benjamin: Regarding The Talk Show
#56All good things come to end. Well...
Re: Dan Benjamin: Regarding The Talk Show
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Like everyone is saying, Dan comes across really well in this. I don't expect JG will ever give us his take. RE: never listening to any 5by5 podcasts–I listened to The Talk Show a few times. Maybe it's because I'm used to the dogma of professional broadcasting, but I don't think you've missed out unless you like hearing a couple of guys pause a hell of a lot during an awkward conversation. Almost every episode I hear…
I think a big part of the appeal of podcasts is that they don't seem like overproduced, substance-less radio. Gruber has some genuinely good insights, particularly about Apple. I also appreciate that this wasn't some overproduced show with sound effects everywhere.
I'm not saying it should be hosted by the tech equivalent of early morning DJs, but I don't think from what I heard they went into enough depth planning the show. Basically it was Dan Benjamin dragging Gruber over topics until Gruber gets to a point he wants to make, and then Gruber speaks coherently and intelligently for a few minutes, and then there's an awkward pause again and it's back to him being gruff and standoffish and Dan chiming in with what he thinks.
There was so much dead air that I found it really actively hard to listen to. There's no natural flow to the conversation for my ears to acclimate to–a natural groove to fall into when you listen–you cannot passively consume it. You have to be actively listening all the time.
Which is a shame because Hivelogic was one of my favourite weblogs back in the day, and I actually admire Gruber.
Re: Dan Benjamin: Regarding The Talk Show
#58Does anyone else find it amusing that the title of the latest post on daring Fireball is "Why wasn't I consulted?".
I read both "What wasn't I consulted?" and "Behind a Press Release" as being very directed at this situation, neither of which were classy ways for Gruber to handle it, just snide allusions.
Dan's short message was pure class.
Re: Dan Benjamin: Regarding The Talk Show
#59Does anyone else find it amusing that the title of the latest post on daring Fireball is "Why wasn't I consulted?".
A year old article about "internet people" having some sense of entitlement about other's work? Hardly a coincidence.
It's Gruber's answer to the HN thread & tweets of last week.
Re: Dan Benjamin: Regarding The Talk Show
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Like everyone is saying, Dan comes across really well in this. I don't expect JG will ever give us his take. RE: never listening to any 5by5 podcasts–I listened to The Talk Show a few times. Maybe it's because I'm used to the dogma of professional broadcasting, but I don't think you've missed out unless you like hearing a couple of guys pause a hell of a lot during an awkward conversation. Almost every episode I hear…
I think a big part of the appeal of podcasts is that they don't seem like overproduced, substance-less radio. Gruber has some genuinely good insights, particularly about Apple. I also appreciate that this wasn't some overproduced show with sound effects everywhere.
I agree. I recently listened to Macbreak Weekly because Gruber was a guest on it, but it was so traditional and produced that I actually didn't like the format. I prefer 5by5 podcasts, especially Hypercritical (as others have mentioned).