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Squatters take over Gordon Ramsay's London pub

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Re: Squatters take over Gordon Ramsay's London pub

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It's unbelievable that squatting isn't a criminal offense. I saw someone solving this problem by subsequently leasing the squatted premise to someone else, and then occupying the residence. Because the person wasn't the owner but a renter they had more rights than the landlord. I wonder if this is the right solution for all of these squatters.

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The property owner pays taxes, right? So the mechanism now is that investors don’t like to pay taxes and expenses without income to offset. I don’t know if the UK has eminent domain, but in the US the city can use eminent domain to purchase and do something. But in this case, I think if anyone wanted that property, they would purchase it. So it’s a bit of a tough problem to fix by government intervention. And Gordon…

>The property owner pays taxes, right? My understanding is that they do not, for a listed building that is vacant.

Well that's an easy fix right there. In the US you pay property taxes regardless.

Re: Squatters take over Gordon Ramsay's London pub

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> Signed by "The Occupiers", the notice ... claimed any attempt to enter the premises without their permission was a criminal offence and could result in a prison sentence or fine.

This is insane that squatting is not a criminal offense and that they can even argue that forceful eviction by the owner would be a criminal offense

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post #11

It's unbelievable that squatting isn't a criminal offense. I saw someone solving this problem by subsequently leasing the squatted premise to someone else, and then occupying the residence. Because the person wasn't the owner but a renter they had more rights than the landlord. I wonder if this is the right solution for all of these squatters.

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So when they finally find a buyer or someone to take the lease, the squatters will peacefully move out?

Re: Squatters take over Gordon Ramsay's London pub

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Property law is abysmal in the UK, the fact that the squatters stuck up a sign on the wall naming their rights to occupy, just shows what a joke it is. I dont agree with property being left empty, but there is due process to these things, and the average worker has to suffer through all of it to even get one home.

If no one is buying at the current price then thats the market saying the fair price is lower, and perhaps it should just go to auction. I'm sure it's pocket change to Ramsey, but it set's an ugly precedent letting this go forth.

If you sit on a train without a ticket it's a jailable offence. How is breaking into someone's property and living there not completely illegal? It's completely inconsistent and squatting is a real problem here.

Re: Squatters take over Gordon Ramsay's London pub

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Property law is abysmal in the UK, the fact that the squatters stuck up a sign on the wall naming their rights to occupy, just shows what a joke it is. I dont agree with property being left empty, but there is due process to these things, and the average worker has to suffer through all of it to even get one home. If no one is buying at the current price then thats the market saying the fair price is lower, and perha…

> pocket change to Ramsey

He does not own the property.

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