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AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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Wow, that tweet they link to with a super punched in shot looks really really bad! Hard to believe Cameron thought this looked better than just a normal 4k transfer, yikes. Was really looking forward to a UHD release of The Abyss but now I'm not so sure... https://twitter.com/RazorwireRyan/status/1735753526167347232

Direct image link: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBaikRhX0AEcjuy?format=jpg

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

#23

Critics will always be critical.

Agree. Though today it's sharper, tomorrow you ask for the plot to be changed or for everyone to be wearing spinny hats. At least there's a shared experience now. If people find this outrageous, just wait until tomorrow. Better to accept the infinite progress unfolding before us than to spend another moment angry or enraged. All I ask for is choice.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

#24

My biggest gripe with these AI film enhancements is that they are adding information that was never there. You're no longer watching the original film. You no longer have a sense of how contemporary film equipment worked, what its limitations were, how the director dealt with those limitations, etc.

How do you feel about extended cuts?

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

#25

AI will be applied to every possible thing it can be.

And re-packaged and re-sold, and people will re-buy and re-watch/re-consume. Imagine "Lord of the Rings - the full trilogy in three 8-hour movies, now with new AI-generated content that fills the gaps left from the 'extended' releases. I know people that will definitely renew their HBO subscriptions in order to watch them (if/when they re-release one movie per year)

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Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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post #19

My biggest gripe with these AI film enhancements is that they are adding information that was never there. You're no longer watching the original film. You no longer have a sense of how contemporary film equipment worked, what its limitations were, how the director dealt with those limitations, etc.

I don't think that's universally true of all AI enhancement though. Information that is "missing" in one frame might be pulled in from a nearby frame. As others have pointed out, we are in the infancy of video enhancement and the future is not fundamentally limited. If that takes away from the artistic nature of the film I understand the complaint, but I look forward to seeing this technology applied where the origin…

In part, we need more vocabulary to distinguish different techniques. Everyone is just "AI" right now, which could mean many different things.

Standard terminology would help us discuss what methods are acceptable for what purposes and what goes too far. And it has to be terminology that the public can understand, so they can make informed decisions.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

#28

Wow, that tweet they link to with a super punched in shot looks really really bad! Hard to believe Cameron thought this looked better than just a normal 4k transfer, yikes. Was really looking forward to a UHD release of The Abyss but now I'm not so sure... https://twitter.com/RazorwireRyan/status/1735753526167347232

This is very bad.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

#29

My biggest gripe with these AI film enhancements is that they are adding information that was never there. You're no longer watching the original film. You no longer have a sense of how contemporary film equipment worked, what its limitations were, how the director dealt with those limitations, etc.

Where would you draw the line though? What is acceptable non-AI remastering?

I'm 99% confident that similar issues were raised with e.g. recolored films, HD upscales, etc.

Re: AI made these movies sharper – critics say it ruined them

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post #12

Repaint the product, sell it as new again.

I don't see anything wrong with selling an upscaled film as a new product, if it's done well. Doing a decent upscale isn't trivial, and quality is often improved significantly.

Like anything, not all upscaled re-releases are of worthwhile quality.

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