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Re: Tell HN: Bypass Paywalls repository is gone

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Post by MasterIQ »

philwelch wrote: post #90
speedgoose wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they have to make their interface work without JavaScript? The few people who block JavaScript for sure know how to enable JavaScript again. And if they block JavaScript for security and trust reasons, well, they are going to download software from gitlab and run it anyway.

This is the attitude that has ruined the entire web. The real question should be: why is JavaScript necessary and what does it add? (In the majority of applications, absolutely nothing.)

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Re: Tell HN: Bypass Paywalls repository is gone

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Post by EwanG »

The last couple of versions I tried to download gave TROJAN warnings from MS Defender. I had created an issue on the project notifying the developer, and I understood he was changing things to not give a "false positive". Perhaps GitLab didn't think they were false positives?

Re: Tell HN: Bypass Paywalls repository is gone

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Post by Tommy430 »

philwelch wrote: post #90
speedgoose wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they have to make their interface work without JavaScript? The few people who block JavaScript for sure know how to enable JavaScript again. And if they block JavaScript for security and trust reasons, well, they are going to download software from gitlab and run it anyway.

This is the attitude that has ruined the entire web. The real question should be: why is JavaScript necessary and what does it add? (In the majority of applications, absolutely nothing.)

Agreed. Sadly it's due to the constant churn of tech these days. Developers should just take notes from the books on the shelf: don't change without consent unless you explicitly some change.

Slightly off-topic: I've been viewing YouTube on a old YouTube frontend that works back to (at least iirc) IE6 and Win98 for some time now [1] [2] [3]. The frontend feels mad snappy as hell and it loads fast compared to YouTube today since the frontend is not heavily JavaScript reliant, it just uses it to enhance the site.

[1] https://i.ibb.co/YpmFP91/yt2009-34.png [2] https://i.ibb.co/THK0wk0/yt2009-35.png [3] https://i.ibb.co/nk7nxZQ/yt2009-36.png

Re: Tell HN: Bypass Paywalls repository is gone

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Post by MasterIQ »

Tommy430 wrote: post #123
philwelch wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the attitude that has ruined the entire web. The real question should be: why is JavaScript necessary and what does it add? (In the majority of applications, absolutely nothing.)

Agreed. Sadly it's due to the constant churn of tech these days. Developers should just take notes from the books on the shelf: don't change without consent unless you explicitly some change. Slightly off-topic: I've been viewing YouTube on a old YouTube frontend that works back to (at least iirc) IE6 and Win98 for some time now [1] [2] [3]. The frontend feels mad snappy as hell and it loads fast compared to YouTube…

    Abuse of animation and skip of best-effort loading:
    This is probably more relevant to the sluggishness and bad interoperability, rather than JavaScript.
    [ Those abusing JavaScript for nefarious purposes: probably not the JavaScript to blame. ]

    Standards established don't necessarily imply being well-designed:
    Blindly following without thinking shall regardless trap.

    Many current infrastructures are fundamentally flawed and difficult to fix:
    1 step wrong, all steps wrong.

Re: Tell HN: Bypass Paywalls repository is gone

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Post by wkat4242 »

Yeul wrote: post #103
wkat4242 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh yes the one I mean is Bypass Paywalls Clean (D). But this also seems to have been kicked out of the Mozilla store. It was just a resubmit by someone else after the original got kicked out when a French newspaper complained. We really need sideloading capability in mobile firefox :(

You can sideload in Firefox Android beta branch. Settings> about Firefox> tap on the fox logo a few times> debug menu enabled> now you see "install ad on from file" under advanced in the settings menu.

Wow they finally added this?? Wow. I will try that thanks!

Re: Tell HN: Bypass Paywalls repository is gone

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Post by DizzyCsango »

Per magnolia's Twitter:

magnolia1234_bpc @Magnolia1234B · 22m Update: tomorrow a new Firefox-release v3.6.4.0 (signed = security check) ! Manual update required with upload on X (new version will update automatically)

For now no more public source code or request issues (use DM on X) https://twitter.com/Magnolia1234B/status/1779050596181438791

WeTransfer already expired (should last 7 days), but new upload here:: https://t.co/8TADPNhiYW

Re: Tell HN: Bypass Paywalls repository is gone

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Post by DizzyCsango »

magnolia1234_bpc @Magnolia1234B · 22m Update: tomorrow a new Firefox-release v3.6.4.0 (signed = security check) ! Manual update required with upload on X (new version will update automatically)

For now no more public source code or request issues (use DM on X) https://twitter.com/Magnolia1234B/status/1779050596181438791

WeTransfer already expired (should last 7 days), but new upload here: https://t.co/8TADPNhiYW

Re: Tell HN: Bypass Paywalls repository is gone

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Post by wlonkly »

wkat4242 wrote: post #105
CM30 wrote: post #46

Seems like Gitlab seems to be even more ridiculous with their responses to large businesses and potentially dubious copyright claims than GitHub is. It's not the only time this month I've seen them take down repositories related to projects that some large company wanted removed despite it not necessarily being illegal in any way.

Yeah this is not a DMCA thing, there is nothing copyrighted in the code. The core problem is the newspapers wanting their cake and eat it. They want those sweet google hits but they don't want to give their articles to readers without payment. So there's always a way around it if you can manage to fake a google spider. For me the current model is so broken. I end up on lots of different newspaper sites. But no, I'm n…

The primary purpose of the DMCA was (and, I suppose, still is) to criminalize technology that circumvents access control protecting copyrighted works. There's also the part about takedowns, but circumvention was definitely the big issue when it was made into law.

Remember DeCSS? https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs201/projects/1999-...

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