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The FCC needs to stop 5G fast lanes

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Re: The FCC needs to stop 5G fast lanes

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Post by yftsui »

KaiserPro wrote: post #2

The thing that is actually missing from this entire essay is competition. The biggest single reason why the USA's (and to a lesser extent Canada's) internet is shite is because of the monopolies that exist. In the EU there are similar offers for "enhanced" access, but its not speeding up/slowing down apps, but giving "free" access, as in not counting to your data cap. Instead of making the FCC stop fast lanes, the FC…

Giving “free data pass” to limited set of apps is even more harmful IMO, the monopolies can afford pay the network infrastructure but small app developers will not be able to.

Re: The FCC needs to stop 5G fast lanes

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Post by BobaFloutist »

seattle_spring wrote: post #21
throwaway35777 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The biggest single reason why the USA's (and to a lesser extent Canada's) internet is shite... Speak for yourself, but I live on the west coast and my Internet connection is great. Edit: downvoters, what are the problems with U.S. internet?

What's your Internet speed up and down, provider, and monthly cost? Actual monthly cost, not temporary promotions.

There's actually a couple of local providers that aren't bad, for example, https://www.sonic.com/.

$40/month (if you don't rent a modem/eerio, which, why would you) for 10 gigs up and down, not to mention excellent customer service.

But I will happily admit that they're a bit of an outlier and the offerings in much of the country are complete shit.

Re: The FCC needs to stop 5G fast lanes

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Post by spullara »

KaiserPro wrote: post #2

The thing that is actually missing from this entire essay is competition. The biggest single reason why the USA's (and to a lesser extent Canada's) internet is shite is because of the monopolies that exist. In the EU there are similar offers for "enhanced" access, but its not speeding up/slowing down apps, but giving "free" access, as in not counting to your data cap. Instead of making the FCC stop fast lanes, the FC…

Best internet in the country is offered by a monopoly in Chattanooga. Up to 25 Gbit up/down.

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Post by photonbeam »

burnte wrote: post #7
imwillofficial wrote: post #3

“The FCC is set to vote on April 25 to restore its authority” This needs to be controlled by congress. Directly.

The thing about administrative government is that you free up congress by allowing them to approve the creation of administrative bodies. It was pretty much the only good thing President Wilson did, help create the administrative state. FCC already HAS the authority designated by Congress. This is about choosing to use it.

It means congress is out of practice doing routine policy, and instead has big fights over very little

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Post by lolinder »

KaiserPro wrote: post #2

The thing that is actually missing from this entire essay is competition. The biggest single reason why the USA's (and to a lesser extent Canada's) internet is shite is because of the monopolies that exist. In the EU there are similar offers for "enhanced" access, but its not speeding up/slowing down apps, but giving "free" access, as in not counting to your data cap. Instead of making the FCC stop fast lanes, the FC…

This was my thought. My municipality has been working towards laying a city-owned fiber network that ISPs compete on, and if that goes through I would have no problem with some of them running the kind of programs described in TFA. If consumers want it they'll choose those ISPs, if they don't they'll choose ones that offer flat rates for all traffic.

The problem with unregulated broadband isn't the lack of regulation in the abstract, it's the lack of regulation over a sector that has 2(±1) choices per household and no easy path for new entrants.

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Post by seattle_spring »

throwaway35777 wrote: post #26
seattle_spring wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your Internet speed up and down, provider, and monthly cost? Actual monthly cost, not temporary promotions.

It's like $50/mo for 200/50 I think. Why, what are yours?

The GP is comparing the US to the rest of the world, and they're correct: the US (including yours) lags behind other modern countries. Singapore, for reference, offers 500/500 symmetric connections for approximately the same price as you're paying. 2gbps symmetric is less than $200/mo.

You're saying your Internet is fast enough for you, and that's fine and probably correct, but you're still getting slower speeds for higher prices than you should. You're also likely better situated than much of the rest of the country.

Re: The FCC needs to stop 5G fast lanes

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Post by room500 »

dbuder wrote: post #17

How many times do we need to fight the same battle? Where I live Netflix has a fast lane and from 6:30pm to 10:30pm every night my internet is unusable.

I don’t think Netflix has a fast lane anywhere.

Netflix does offer to give servers to ISPs to put in their datacenters. So if your ISP is seeing congestion on the IX links, it is entirely possible that Netflix still works fine (because the traffic doesn’t leave the ISP and is therefore not hitting the congestion). But that is not a “fast lane”

Re: The FCC needs to stop 5G fast lanes

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Post by Aspos »

throwaway35777 wrote: post #26
seattle_spring wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your Internet speed up and down, provider, and monthly cost? Actual monthly cost, not temporary promotions.

It's like $50/mo for 200/50 I think. Why, what are yours?

What is great about paying $50 for such low bandwidth?
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