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We need more calm companies

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Re: We need more calm companies

#11

Calm companies as defined in this article is difficult to pull off in markets with winner takes all dynamics

I think that's a very standard VC line I've encountered in the startup world, but the stats just don't bear it out.

Pick any software business - productivity tools, marketing, data providers, security, UX, medical/healthcare - and the reality is always that 1-5 big companies dominate, while 100s or 1000s of smaller companies, many that fit with the ideas of the "calm company" philosophy, are profitable and even growing (albeit more slowly).

The "winner take all" mentality isn't even true in the sectors where it's supposed to be a hard and fast rule. Social media platforms have a half dozen dominant players, and another 40-50 businesses that are successful by the calm definition. Search engines - Google dominates, but another half dozen and a few hundred vertical search engines (in travel, B2B data, real estate, ecommerce of every kind, etc.) have 10s to 100s of millions in revenue.

Until I see an economy-wide analysis of this "winner takes all" rule, with massive numbers of sectors where no small/calm companies are surviving, will I believe this is true. Seems to me like the "riches in the niches" saying is actually the rule, but it doesn't fit with the unicorn-or-bust returns model of large venture funds.

Re: We need more calm companies

#12

Calm companies as defined in this article is difficult to pull off in markets with winner takes all dynamics

I think that's a very standard VC line I've encountered in the startup world, but the stats just don't bear it out. Pick any software business - productivity tools, marketing, data providers, security, UX, medical/healthcare - and the reality is always that 1-5 big companies dominate, while 100s or 1000s of smaller companies, many that fit with the ideas of the "calm company" philosophy, are profitable and even growi…

Ok, yeah you can niche down or specialize but then this article should make a stronger qualifying statement then.

Re: We need more calm companies

#14
This is what private equity and hostile takeovers are about, no? Identifying companies where management has sacrificed efficiency for "calm" and either rigging them for better returns or returning their capital to the pool.

Re: We need more calm companies

#15
17 years ago I worked for a startup company. Despite being VC funded and not yet profitable, we remained calm. Our investors were institutional and government organizations who were more concerned with trying to build a successful company than trying to get a quick or huge payout. It took a few years, but we became profitable, and we worked steadily towards growing, but never in a rush.

Several years ago we were acquired by Siemens. They continued to invest in our group and expand it, even through the pandemic, always with an eye on steady, sustainable growth. Of course there are always targets to hit and people feeling pressured to hit them, but nobody is afraid of losing their job or being asked to work overtime. There always has been and continues to be a culture of work life balance; happy and healthy employees are productive and stick around.

I know lots of other people in my industry and in my area who have similarly calm jobs, whether smaller startups or larger, mature companies. Around here, it's the norm, not the exception.

The thing is, you don't hear about those companies in the news. It's the ones who are frantically hiring and firing that get people's attention. Everyone else just quietly goes about their business.

Re: We need more calm companies

#17
post #3

I don’t disagree with the premise, but this would come off less self-serving if the author would provide examples of “calm companies” other than just their own.

There is a whole fund full: https://calmfund.com

And other fund with this same model: https://tinyseed.com

Re: We need more calm companies

#18

Calm companies as defined in this article is difficult to pull off in markets with winner takes all dynamics

I think that's a very standard VC line I've encountered in the startup world, but the stats just don't bear it out. Pick any software business - productivity tools, marketing, data providers, security, UX, medical/healthcare - and the reality is always that 1-5 big companies dominate, while 100s or 1000s of smaller companies, many that fit with the ideas of the "calm company" philosophy, are profitable and even growi…

Like, both of ye are correct. If you're a VC your fund structure requires winner takes all markets, but if you just want a healthy return over a longer period of time then the second argument is correct.

Re: We need more calm companies

#19
post #10

Calm companies exist everywhere. In fact, calm companies probably outnumber “frenzied” companies 10x. They are the quiet, stable, regional, unsexy businesses that have been around for 40 years. I have a friend who is an SWE at a large regional insurance broker. Very calm work indeed. They just don’t pay SV wages.

> They just don’t pay SV wages.

As a candidate, how do you separate this kind of company from one where the owners are cheap and want to pay you as less as possible?

There are a lot of companies that advertise terrific WLB, pictures of their employees and their families laughing only to find out none of those employees work there any longer and the pictures were taken on their once-every-10-years retreat at a cheap hotel in MO or WY.

Re: We need more calm companies

#20

Calm companies are not exciting. They’re not inspiring. You won’t do your best work there.

> Calm companies are not exciting. They’re not inspiring. You won’t do your best work there.

Explain more. Also, ensure you're not conflating "calm companies" with "cheap companies" where the owners are focused on spending as little money as possible, including paying people as little money as possible and claim they spend so little in order to "spend responsibly" - those places are depressing and I am curious if there's a way to detect "calm companies" from "cheap companies"

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