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I Lost Faith in Kagi

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Re: I Lost Faith in Kagi

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Post by jorvi »

antifa wrote: post #598
jorvi wrote: post #571

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Terrible take. A complaint is worth twice a compliment because complaints are actionable. And both are worth more than silence. That doesn’t mean a business needs to acquiesce to every little demand. But “just listen to the money” is a horrible path for product improvement.

> because complaints are actionable plenty of actionable complaints are just wild goose chases to nowhere.

Sure. A complaint of “why did you give us t-shirts?” isn’t very actionable aside from perhaps being more verbose as to why. But something like “Why are you guys starting an e-mail service? Most of us just want a good search engine with perhaps a simple LLM attached to it for base things like summarization” is definitely actionable.

Re: I Lost Faith in Kagi

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Post by p3rls »

mr_machine wrote: post #95

I'm a subscriber simply because their search is far better than any available alternative. That's the primary thing I want from them and so far they're delivering it at a cost I consider fair. Their other projects are not interesting or useful to me, but so far I can simply ignore them. Yes, on some level I wish they'd focus and quit wasting money and energy on things I don't care about, but that's really not my affa…

Kagi is for corporate (high 'DR' websites) Google for SEOed wordpress spam

Very annoying being a hobbyist website in the middle of it I'll tell you that much

Re: I Lost Faith in Kagi

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Post by getlawgdon »

infecto wrote: post #489
kerkeslager wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please please please take Hacker News' opinions with a very large grain of salt. Many of Hacker News' users work at garbage AdTech companies and there are often people posting here who say things like "I for one enjoy targeted ads" (that's an actual quote). This place is not representative of your customer base. I love what you're doing and will continue to support you at your Professional tier as long as you continu…

HN is probably more representative of the customer base than your preconceived notions and hostility. I imagine a large base of the current 20+k users are via HN.

Is there an estimate of HN's userbase?

Re: I Lost Faith in Kagi

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Post by xigoi »

thisisjasononhn wrote: post #223
iowahansen wrote: post #23

Happy Kagi user here. I'm gladly paying $25 per month because of all their AI features, which work well for me overall. Yes, I could set up API keys on OpenAI, Anthropic, Google and Mistral and get a similar experience for less, but I prefer the convenience of their interface and have clean search results bundled into the experience. I will continue to recommend them and hope that T-Shirt becomes available soon.

Or you could spend $25 a month on a dedicated server and run SearxNG or Yacy? Good lord what an excessive amount of money that is to search the web ...

Then someone decides to DDOS your server and suddenly you’re in serious debt.

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Post by xigoi »

tail_exchange wrote: post #430
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brendan Eich also created JavaScript. So you're going to have to pretty much stop using the Internet entirely if you're going to act like his work has anything to do with his political opinions. Personally, I separate a person's work from their political opinions and I think you should too.

Not really. Life doesn't have to be an all-or-nothing dichotomy like this. It is a perfectly fine decision to boycott a product if it is viable to be boycotted, and keep using a product if it's not: using the web without JavaScript is almost impossible, so I'll use it; using the web without Brave is easy, so I won't use it. This is not about separating a person's work from their political views, it's about not giving…

So instead you’ll give money to Google, which totally won’t do shady stuff with it?

Re: I Lost Faith in Kagi

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Post by xigoi »

darrmit wrote: post #92

I did pay briefly for Kagi, but ultimately just didn't see the benefit over DDG. Google seems to be too far gone to be useful, but DDG still consistently finds what I need. Other than that, the main issue I have with Kagi from a business perspective is it will always be extremely niche. Even among "tech" people, the idea of paying for a search engine will always be a single digit percentage of the overall market. I v…

The main benefit over DDG is the ability to customize search results. If you have no use for that, Kagi is probably not for you, and that’s fine.

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Post by xigoi »

husamia wrote: post #515

I pay for Kagi because I like the search functionality as oppose to google which is heavily monitized, also I use summarizer alot. I wish my search is not capped

The $10 plan has not been capped for quite a long time.

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Post by xigoi »

rebeccaskinner wrote: post #358

I've been using Kagi since the early in the beta, and I've been happy with it. I think most of this article is maybe a bit overblown, but there are a few things that give me pause. On the positive side, I still think Kagi's search results are, practically speaking, better than other search engine's results. I don't make heavy use of filters, but used sparingly they've had a really positive impact on my experience. Sa…

Kagi does not log searches, so how could they be used to prosecute people? Unless the government orders them to secretly start logging searches, but in that case the personal beliefs of the founder don’t play a role.

Re: I Lost Faith in Kagi

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Post by Gerlo »

Tomte wrote: post #4

Subsequently: https://hackers.town/@lori/112255132348604770

The author sounds unhinged. Also, their email address is kobld@proton.me, and Protonmail easily lets you block email addresses or entire domains. The author comes off as an attention-seeking baby.
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