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Re: Anyone got a contact at OpenAI. They have a spider problem

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Post by pflanze »

Octokiddie wrote: post #26

I'm more interested in what that content farm is for. It looks pointless, but I suspect there's a bizarre economic incentive. There are affiliate links, but how much could that possibly bring in?

Linkers & Loaders is their own book (I haven't checked the others).

They have a page at https://www.iecc.com/linker/ where they used to publish a draft of the book contents, but changed the page to say "Chapters were available in an excessive variety of formats, but are not any longer due to chronic piracy", when it got posted to HN at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18424233 and I bundled the files for offline reading. I notified them via email about that asking if they are OK with it but got an unfriendly response that I pirated the files and that wasn't OK, so I took the link down again and they changed that text. (Shrug. I'm not a/the book author, they are. I'll say that I also suggested to them they ask on the page not to do what I did since then I wouldn't have, but they chose their more radical approach.)

Re: Anyone got a contact at OpenAI. They have a spider problem

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Post by Dylan16807 »

tsunamifury wrote: post #390
Dylan16807 wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> truly free is often free for a predator to eat it all and make it closed That doesn't apply when the word "open" is helping clarify. A predator making open things closed isn't people asking for the wrong thing and getting egg on their face, it's people not getting what they asked for at all through no fault of their own. Especially because this same kind of crawling works on a non-open internet. > circle jerk Do yo…

No just to the misunderstanding of what open is. So many people thing free and open also has rules that protect them. It does not.

An open thing can have protections against becoming non-open, and still be open.

But protections or not, someone saying "not like that" about the open web only properly applies when people or companies do something as part of their open web actions. If they do other bad things then "not like that" doesn't apply there.

Publishing a virus to the Web would be "not like that". Not publishing at all is in a different category.

Re: Anyone got a contact at OpenAI. They have a spider problem

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Post by fennecbutt »

Voultapher wrote: post #227
TeMPOraL wrote: post #193

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Much like one of the first phrases spoken by babies today is "like and subscribe".

Part of me really wants to believe this is a joke. But given how often toddlers are "taken care of" by planting them in front of youtube :|

Which has been done for generations. And before TV it was leaving the door wide open for them to free roam whether they suffered or prospered from it.

Re: Anyone got a contact at OpenAI. They have a spider problem

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

aidenn0 wrote: post #86
btown wrote: post #30

This reminds me of how GPT-2/3/J came across https://reddit.com/r/counting , wherein redditors repeatedly post incremental numbers to count to infinity. It considered their usernames, like SolidGoldMagikarp, such common strings on the Internet that, during tokenization, it treated them as top-level tokens of their own. https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/8viQEp8KBg2QSW4Yc/solid... https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/LAx…

I wonder how much the source content is the cause of hallucinations rather than anything inherent to LLMs. I mean if someone posts a question on an internet forum that I don't know the answer to, I'm certainly not going to post "I don't know" since that wouldn't be useful. In fact, in general, in any non one-on-one conversation the answer "I don't know" is not useful because if you don't know in a group, your silence…

> In fact, in general, in any non one-on-one conversation the answer "I don't know" is not useful because if you don't know in a group, your silence indicates that.

Only a response makes it clear one has read and acknowledged the question and sometimes there are people expected to know, if they don‘t the should say so.

Re: Anyone got a contact at OpenAI. They have a spider problem

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Post by tsunamifury »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #392
tsunamifury wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No just to the misunderstanding of what open is. So many people thing free and open also has rules that protect them. It does not.

An open thing can have protections against becoming non-open, and still be open. But protections or not, someone saying "not like that" about the open web only properly applies when people or companies do something as part of their open web actions. If they do other bad things then "not like that" doesn't apply there. Publishing a virus to the Web would be "not like that". Not publishing at all is in a different cate…

Not like that!

Re: Anyone got a contact at OpenAI. They have a spider problem

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Post by TeMPOraL »

cozzyd wrote: post #344
TeMPOraL wrote: post #193

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Much like one of the first phrases spoken by babies today is "like and subscribe".

Google was depressingly early on my daughter's word list (from, "hey Google, play $FOO")

Which is why I hate the current breed of assistants. They won't be Star Trek-level nice until vendors give up on the whole "Hey [brand 1], [brand 2] on [brand 3] with [brand 4]" interface.

Re: Anyone got a contact at OpenAI. They have a spider problem

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Post by douglaskayama »

adw wrote: post #341
bkirkby wrote: post #339

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why is it three logicians? wouldn't it work with just two?

[Three is always funnier]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_(writing) ).

Three is a magic number. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rdhqAZSRDc

Re: Anyone got a contact at OpenAI. They have a spider problem

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Post by jdashg »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #397
cozzyd wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google was depressingly early on my daughter's word list (from, "hey Google, play $FOO")

Which is why I hate the current breed of assistants. They won't be Star Trek-level nice until vendors give up on the whole "Hey [brand 1], [brand 2] on [brand 3] with [brand 4]" interface.

Amazon at least used to letting you say "Computer,", fwiw! Not sure if they still do, but I was happy to learn of that option!
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