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Huawei building chip equipment R&D center in Shanghai

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Re: Huawei building chip equipment R&D center in Shanghai

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I’m really curious if they can turn the investments into competitive process nodes. My understanding is that semiconductor technology has a very wide moat.

I think it is already competitive. They are selling millions of the Huawei Mate 60 pro.

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From the article: But while Huawei's compensation package is generous, its working culture can be challenging, according to chip industry managers. "Working with them is brutal. It's not 996 -- meaning working from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. ... It will literally be 007 -- from midnight to midnight, seven days a week. No days off at all," one Chinese chip engineer told Nikkei Asia. "The contract will be for t…

What does that even mean? Obviously people need to eat and sleep and can't literally work 24 hours a day.

In that working culture it is often okay to sleep (at work, at your desk) for 2-4 hours. It is brutal, but people are willing to do it, so it persists.

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From the article: But while Huawei's compensation package is generous, its working culture can be challenging, according to chip industry managers. "Working with them is brutal. It's not 996 -- meaning working from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. ... It will literally be 007 -- from midnight to midnight, seven days a week. No days off at all," one Chinese chip engineer told Nikkei Asia. "The contract will be for t…

I assume that's a mistake and it means "twelve hours a day, seven days a week"? Either way, I have nothing but bad wishes for their new endeavors if that's the case - this is obviously not an acceptable way to treat people.

If they state it up front and people know what they are getting into. What’s the issue? If it’s so horrible, it won’t work right?

Re: Huawei building chip equipment R&D center in Shanghai

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From the article: But while Huawei's compensation package is generous, its working culture can be challenging, according to chip industry managers. "Working with them is brutal. It's not 996 -- meaning working from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. ... It will literally be 007 -- from midnight to midnight, seven days a week. No days off at all," one Chinese chip engineer told Nikkei Asia. "The contract will be for t…

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It is quite an exciting era to be alive in - both because of the escalating conflicts between nuclear powers but also because we're welcoming another billion+ humans into living in an advanced industrial society. Hard to believe that 1970s China has come this far. Hopefully India follows close behind.

"may you live in interesting times..."

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post #4

I’m really curious if they can turn the investments into competitive process nodes. My understanding is that semiconductor technology has a very wide moat.

the moat is wide if the market was free. However, when it becomes a matter of national security, the economic viability becomes a far lower priority. China is obviously going to get there, just a matter of time.

Yes - as they say once the possible is known it is always easier to replicate

Re: Huawei building chip equipment R&D center in Shanghai

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From the article: But while Huawei's compensation package is generous, its working culture can be challenging, according to chip industry managers. "Working with them is brutal. It's not 996 -- meaning working from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. ... It will literally be 007 -- from midnight to midnight, seven days a week. No days off at all," one Chinese chip engineer told Nikkei Asia. "The contract will be for t…

007 is a humorous mockery of the younger generation of Chinese workers who work overtime desperately in their companies.

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post #4

I’m really curious if they can turn the investments into competitive process nodes. My understanding is that semiconductor technology has a very wide moat.

the moat is wide if the market was free. However, when it becomes a matter of national security, the economic viability becomes a far lower priority. China is obviously going to get there, just a matter of time.

Sure. But sanctions are fundamentally a tool to incur costs. China doesn't have an unlimited budget. If chips becomes a priority, something else will lose some funding, be it military or e. g. other industry subsidies.

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume that's a mistake and it means "twelve hours a day, seven days a week"? Either way, I have nothing but bad wishes for their new endeavors if that's the case - this is obviously not an acceptable way to treat people.

If they state it up front and people know what they are getting into. What’s the issue? If it’s so horrible, it won’t work right?

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Re: Huawei building chip equipment R&D center in Shanghai

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that even mean? Obviously people need to eat and sleep and can't literally work 24 hours a day.

In that working culture it is often okay to sleep (at work, at your desk) for 2-4 hours. It is brutal, but people are willing to do it, so it persists.

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