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So why did they take the material? If you don’t want it, then don’t take it.
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> Technology is about tomorrow. It's not about yesterday
One doesn't have a tomorrow without a yesterday.
I continue to no longer attend vintage computer festivals
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Even old wood furniture -- no one wants it. Old PC or Byte Magazines? Forget it; they're all over. I think the former is pretty true, but old PC magazines are still important to keep around. For one, they can be digitized to take up virtually no physical space (unlike furniture). Secondly, once digitized and OCR'd to make searchable, they're a valuable resource for finding out when certain products or technologies…
Rather the reverse. Any publication is easily available in PDF. Real solid furniture is nearly impossibly to find new. Everthing is particleboard and vaneers, or if higher end, mdf and veneers.
What? I bought a bed last year. It’s solid wood, only the bottom of the under-bed-drawers being some kind of glued material. And it wasn’t even some super high-end thing, including the drawers, I paid just below 1000 € for it.
When searching for a bed to buy (as I wanted solid wood), I even found many stores specializing in solid wood furniture.
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#94The real question is whether these journals were already scanned and archived or not.
That's a question for folks who don't value original copies.
Meanwhile, mint-condition, shrink-wrapped Magic the Gathering cards sell for $$$. Same goes for other collectibles and real art.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Even old wood furniture -- no one wants it. Old PC or Byte Magazines? Forget it; they're all over. I think the former is pretty true, but old PC magazines are still important to keep around. For one, they can be digitized to take up virtually no physical space (unlike furniture). Secondly, once digitized and OCR'd to make searchable, they're a valuable resource for finding out when certain products or technologies…
I think the point is that it's already been digitized. All of it. The stuff in your attic isn't a valuable historic artifact; it's deep in the trough of no value.
I may have the only omnibus of PET Benelux Exchange magazines out there, which seem to be entirely unavailable online. There are exceptions.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Even old wood furniture -- no one wants it. Old PC or Byte Magazines? Forget it; they're all over. I think the former is pretty true, but old PC magazines are still important to keep around. For one, they can be digitized to take up virtually no physical space (unlike furniture). Secondly, once digitized and OCR'd to make searchable, they're a valuable resource for finding out when certain products or technologies…
I think the point is that it's already been digitized. All of it. The stuff in your attic isn't a valuable historic artifact; it's deep in the trough of no value.
A good third of HP Application Notes is still not digitized. Same with many other publications that aren't Dr. Dobbs' or BYTE.
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#97I attended the SoCal Vintage Computer festival, went to a talk and when they asked for questions, seeing no one else asking questions, I asked if anyone wrote malware for these systems now that they’re internet connected. The inventor of the device (Thomas Cherryhomes) immediately belittled the question and asked why anyone would want to do that (the irony seemed to escape him, given that he built a network interface…
Technically a valid question, but imho a problem if you take the network oart seriously.
Most of these festivals are more about shared nostalgia than objective appreciation of technology from a specific time.
Like watching one of those videos from LGR. Watching him power up an old computer and hearing that "thunk" sound is beautiful.
And slighty offtopic, but I think nostalgia is fun when shared with people. Being nostalgic alone is a mix of warm and sad.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rather the reverse. Any publication is easily available in PDF. Real solid furniture is nearly impossibly to find new. Everthing is particleboard and vaneers, or if higher end, mdf and veneers.
What? I bought a bed last year. It’s solid wood, only the bottom of the under-bed-drawers being some kind of glued material. And it wasn’t even some super high-end thing, including the drawers, I paid just below 1000 € for it. When searching for a bed to buy (as I wanted solid wood), I even found many stores specializing in solid wood furniture.
But notably, it's not old. No one wants the old stuff anymore, no matter how good.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rather the reverse. Any publication is easily available in PDF. Real solid furniture is nearly impossibly to find new. Everthing is particleboard and vaneers, or if higher end, mdf and veneers.
What? I bought a bed last year. It’s solid wood, only the bottom of the under-bed-drawers being some kind of glued material. And it wasn’t even some super high-end thing, including the drawers, I paid just below 1000 € for it. When searching for a bed to buy (as I wanted solid wood), I even found many stores specializing in solid wood furniture.
Now try finding a solid wood table that doesn't cost $3,000+.
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#100I attended the SoCal Vintage Computer festival, went to a talk and when they asked for questions, seeing no one else asking questions, I asked if anyone wrote malware for these systems now that they’re internet connected. The inventor of the device (Thomas Cherryhomes) immediately belittled the question and asked why anyone would want to do that (the irony seemed to escape him, given that he built a network interface…
Technically a valid question, but imho a problem if you take the network oart seriously. Most of these festivals are more about shared nostalgia than objective appreciation of technology from a specific time. Like watching one of those videos from LGR. Watching him power up an old computer and hearing that "thunk" sound is beautiful. And slighty offtopic, but I think nostalgia is fun when shared with people. Being no…
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