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Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

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Post by cjs »

Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #40
jazzyjackson wrote: post #16

Sounds like the donation was unsolicited, Jason just expected the thousand pounds of tree pulp to be appreciated by a vintage computer festival?

From X it seems that the donation wasn't unsolicited, they were basically accepting everything they could get their hands on at the time. However due to poor planning the donation was stored near salt water in a non climate controlled warehouse. > https://twitter.com/amichlin/status/1778494138138124432 > "Well, it never should have been accepted in the first place. But literally everything was being accepted at the t…

Well, that's better than all them being pulped. But not that much better, if it's all been split up and sent to private collections. I am pretty sure, knowing Jason Scott, that his intent was that this collection should be available to the public in some way, and not split up and effectively hidden.

Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

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Post by cjs »

amichlin wrote: post #41

As a former warehouse volunteer at VCF in Wall, NJ, I can attest that this blog post consists of only conjecture and no facts. Everything was checked for archiving. Everything was offered to anyone who would listen for over a year. Most of the paper found a good home. In fact, a better home as the warehouse is near the ocean and has no climate control. Not a good place to donate paper. It should never have been donat…

What does "checked for archiving" mean? Is this collection available to the public in any way?

Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

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Post by amichlin »

cjs wrote: post #52
amichlin wrote: post #41

As a former warehouse volunteer at VCF in Wall, NJ, I can attest that this blog post consists of only conjecture and no facts. Everything was checked for archiving. Everything was offered to anyone who would listen for over a year. Most of the paper found a good home. In fact, a better home as the warehouse is near the ocean and has no climate control. Not a good place to donate paper. It should never have been donat…

What does "checked for archiving" mean? Is this collection available to the public in any way?

Checked for archiving means that everything was checked to see if it was already archived. The collection was popular computer magazines that have long ago been archived. Nothing unique, which is likely why the donation was made in the first place. The blog post implies there was something unique about this donation. There was not. If you know anything about the work of the author of the blog post, you wouldn't even be able to imagine him placing something with historical value in a venue like the VCF warehouse. There was no historical value.

It just took up space that was ultimately used to save more important items, like actual computers, and was in a venue that was absolutely hostile to paper. So the paper found better homes. The statement that it was thrown away is factually incorrect. The implication that somehow history was lost is also incorrect.

Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

#54

Post by amichlin »

MaxBarraclough wrote: post #35
santoshalper wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, in this case the capitalization is important.

It's unclear even with title case, as the words would be capitalised anyway.

It is so much more confusing than that.

VCF = Vintage Computer Federation, a national non-profit

VCF also = Vintage Computer Festival

VCFestival East and West are run by VCFederation. VCFestival MidWest is not.

Vintage Computer Festival as a name has a complicated history, but the short version is anyone can use the term and does use the term.

VCFederation also manages the warehouse and museum space in Wall, NJ. The blog author has an issue with VCFederation, not all VCFestivals.

Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

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Post by ehPReth »

amichlin wrote: post #53
cjs wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does "checked for archiving" mean? Is this collection available to the public in any way?

Checked for archiving means that everything was checked to see if it was already archived. The collection was popular computer magazines that have long ago been archived. Nothing unique, which is likely why the donation was made in the first place. The blog post implies there was something unique about this donation. There was not. If you know anything about the work of the author of the blog post, you wouldn't even…

wouldn't a warehouse near the ocean also be bad for electronic parts/metals?

Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

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Post by ehPReth »

nanomonkey wrote: post #42
nxobject wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sad there's no easily-available public resource that would at least destructively scan those for you.

Internet Archive scans all sorts of media and saves them.

they do for sure: https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-make-a-physical-donat...

Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

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Post by ehPReth »

cranky908canuck wrote: post #43

With a large (at least in kilograms) collection of vinyl and shellac records, I have looked into the 'what happens next (ie., what should my executor do)' issue. The most memorable comment was in the blog of a buyer of collections. Can't find the link but paraphrased: "I will never even look at a collection that has had anyone else peruse and buy some discs. They bought your collection." As in, most 'collections' are…

Maybe consider the Internet archive? https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-make-a-physical-donat...

Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

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Post by santoshalper »

amichlin wrote: post #49
sshine wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nothing in this blog post is factual. So VCF doesn’t have those plastic boxes any more?

I can't speak to that as I haven't been involved in two years. But they were there two years ago, so I'll correct myself say almost the entirety of the blog post is false.

So, the author did not donate magazines? The magazines were not disposed of? There were not many asserted facts in the post. Which exact ones were lies?

Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

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Post by santoshalper »

ehPReth wrote: post #55
amichlin wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Checked for archiving means that everything was checked to see if it was already archived. The collection was popular computer magazines that have long ago been archived. Nothing unique, which is likely why the donation was made in the first place. The blog post implies there was something unique about this donation. There was not. If you know anything about the work of the author of the blog post, you wouldn't even…

wouldn't a warehouse near the ocean also be bad for electronic parts/metals?

Literally nothing about that comment makes sense. The bullshit stench is strong.

Re: I am no longer attending vintage computer festivals

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Post by k_roy »

santoshalper wrote: post #59
ehPReth wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wouldn't a warehouse near the ocean also be bad for electronic parts/metals?

Literally nothing about that comment makes sense. The bullshit stench is strong.

if this person is legit (amichlin), they did absolutely nothing to support their position.
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