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Hacked Nvidia 4090 GPU driver to enable P2P

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Re: Hacked Nvidia 4090 GPU driver to enable P2P

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Post by FeepingCreature »

logicchains wrote: post #175
jprete wrote: post #98

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If AI is actually capable of fulfilling all the capabilities suggested by people who believe in the singularity, it has far more capacity for harm than nuclear weapons. I think most people who are strongly pro-AI/pro-acceleration - or, at any rate, not anti-AI - believe that either (A) there is no control problem (B) it will be solved (C) AI won't become independent and agentic (i.e. it won't face evolutionary pressu…

>If you hold the opposite opinions, then it makes perfect sense to push the brakes as hard as possible, which is why "govern compute" can make sense as an idea. The people pushing for "govern compute" are not pushing for "limit everyone's compute", they're pushing for "limit everyone's compute except us". Even if you believe there's going to be AGI, surely it's better to have distributed AGI than to have AGI only in…

No they really do push for "limit everyone's compute". The people pushing for "limit everyone's compute except us" are allies of convenience that are gonna be inevitably backstabbed.

At any rate, if you have like two corps with lots of compute, and something goes wrong, you only have to EMP two datacenters.

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Post by FeepingCreature »

stale2002 wrote: post #123
cjbprime wrote: post #88

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It doesn't sound like you gave serious thought to the arguments. The AGI doesn't need to hack robots. It has superhuman persuasion, by definition; it can "hack" (enough of) the humans to achieve its goals.

AI mind control abilities are also on the level of an extraordinary claim, that requires extraordinary evidence. It's on the level of "we better regulate wooden sticks so Voldemort doesn't use the imperious curse on us!". That's how I treat such claims. I treat them the same as someone literally talking about magic from Harry potter. There isn't nothing that would make me believe that. But it requires actual evidence…

Less than a month ago: https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.14380 "We found that participants who debated GPT-4 with access to their personal information had 81.7% (p And it's only gonna get better.

Re: Hacked Nvidia 4090 GPU driver to enable P2P

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Post by FeepingCreature »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #126
hollerith wrote: post #121

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You might be OK with suddenly dying along with all your friends and family, but I am not even if it is "evolution in action".

Historically governments haven't needed computers or AI to do that. They've always managed just fine. Punched cards helped, though, I guess...

gestures at the human population graph wordlessly

Re: Hacked Nvidia 4090 GPU driver to enable P2P

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Post by FeepingCreature »

Aerroon wrote: post #45
the8472 wrote: post #28

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... after regulation, court orders and fines have failed. Which under the premise that AGI is an existential threat would be far more reasonable than many other reasons for raids. If the premise is wrong we won't need it. If society coordinates to not do the dangerous thing we won't need it. The argument is that only in the case where we find ourselves in the situation where other measures have failed such uses of fo…

> If the premise is wrong we won't need it. If society coordinates to not do the dangerous thing we won't need it. But the idea that this use of force is okay itself increases danger. It creates the situation that actors in the field might realize that at some point they're in danger of this and decide to do a first strike to protect themselves. I think this is why anti-nuclear policy is not "we will airstrike you if…

If Israel couldn't infiltrate Iran's centrifuges, do you think they would just let them have nukes? Of course airstrikes are on the table.

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Post by chaostheory »

andersa wrote: post #107
corn13read2 wrote: post #94

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A macbook is cheaper though

Sure, it's also at least an order of magnitude slower in practice, compared to 4x 4090 running at full speed. We're looking at 10 times the memory bandwidth and much greater compute.

Yeah, even a Mac Studio is way too slow compared to Nvidia which is too bad because at $7000 maxed to 192gb it would be an easy sell. Hopefully, they will fix this by m5. I don’t trust the marketing for m4

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Post by pixelpoet »

samtheprogram wrote: post #239
pixelpoet wrote: post #185

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There was also that CheapEth crypto scam he tried to pull off.

To me that was obvious satire of the crypto scene.

Ah yes, nothing like a bit of hypocrisy to make a point. It's okay though, as long as it's people we don't agree with, defrauding them is fine.

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Post by ansible »

samtheprogram wrote: post #239
pixelpoet wrote: post #185

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There was also that CheapEth crypto scam he tried to pull off.

To me that was obvious satire of the crypto scene.

I don't think people can tell what is satire or not in the crypto scene anymore. Someone issue a "rug pull token" and still received 8.8 ETH (approx $29K USD), while telling people it was a scam.

https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=rug-pull-token

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mhh__ wrote: post #158
userbinator wrote: post #76

I wish more hardware companies would publish more documentation and let the community figure out the rest, sort of like what happened to the original IBM VGA (look up "Mode X" and the other non-BIOS modes the hardware is actually capable of - even 800x600x16!) Sadly it seems the majority of them would rather tightly control every aspect of their products' usage since they can then milk the userbase for more $$$, but…

nvidia's software is their moat

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