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Iirc it was said that speeds over 30 km/h will kill you too.
worldwide over 1 million deaths a year...
How many of those were wearing seatbelts?
I Lost Faith in Kagi
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#422After a recent mention on HN I gave Kagi a try and subscribed for a few months. But after using it I'm really not sure why it get so much for the core "search", I found it so underwhelming that I would instinctively use the !g bang to just go right to Google.
It turns out that even though I can't stand the number of ads, Google is still much better at getting me an answer quickly (usually with the quick answer modules).
I was also surprised at the number of times Kagi came up with 0 search results, and while one of the draws for me was to have higher quality results instead of quantity, I still found a _ton_ of results for AI generated crappy top-10-list sites trying to sell me something.
Love the idea, and will probably check back in from time to time, but so far the execution just isn't there for me.
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#423Fair criticisms, but at the end of the day, Kagi offers a better search experience then all the alternatives for a fair price, so I pay for it. I don't really need to have 'faith' in it, though I do hope it sticks around. Also, can't wait to get my tshirt! (closed beta user here)
Exactly this, it's a product, not a religion. I like that it exists. I pay for it. It feels worth it to me. Certainly more useful to me than the Netflix sub I had hanging around forever but barely used. I don't get why random punditry is of any relevance here, or why Vlad felt the need to respond. He needs a PR person, I think
>Exactly this, it's a product, not a religion.
Could have fooled me!
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#424Wrong opinion to have, but I never really found the difference between Kagi results and DDG results to be different enough to warrant paying for something that doesn’t even work on my phone without hacks. FWIW I agree google search is now unusable, only comparing to DDG
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#425Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a forum where people respond well to practical explanations from thoughtful founders. I don't know if the OP got what they needed from this reply, but I assume I'm not alone in being impressed by the humility and candor of the response and developed much greater affinity for Kagi from some of the specifics of what were said. I want more companies to have communicative, principled management that invites a sus…
Interesting take. It is valid and don't take my alternative interpretation as suggesting otherwise. I owned a business for 18 years. For 15 of those years it was my primary source of income. I valued feedback, tried my hardest to solicit as much of it as possible, and always took it to heart (though I had to always try and glean statistics from the sum of all feedback so that I was never spending resources on minorit…
> pretend they can please 7B people
I think the most positive aspect of freediver's response is the implied dismissal of the above. - that their stubborness is genuine, not a more robotic, seemingly hollow, response of concern. As a marketing approach, I'm wondering if maybe that would give you less reach and more impact in general.
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#426Wrong opinion to have, but I never really found the difference between Kagi results and DDG results to be different enough to warrant paying for something that doesn’t even work on my phone without hacks. FWIW I agree google search is now unusable, only comparing to DDG
What sort of phone do you have where using kagi requires hacks?
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#427Wrong opinion to have, but I never really found the difference between Kagi results and DDG results to be different enough to warrant paying for something that doesn’t even work on my phone without hacks. FWIW I agree google search is now unusable, only comparing to DDG
What sort of phone do you have where using kagi requires hacks?
iPhone
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#428VERY ironic to me that a web search company has its community platform hosted on Discord, which is un-indexable. Honestly, companies having their community platform on Discord is a huge red flag for me.
The Discord seems to be mostly casual, unimportant discussion and notifications about updates. If you bring up an issue or a feature request they very quickly ask you to post on the feedback site (https://kagifeedback.org/) instead.
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#429Lori seems (from the blog post and the subsequent email chain with the CEO) to be unnecessarily combative and most definitely too emotionally invested in Kagi. You're paying, what, 10, 25 USD - are you getting a good service for it? If not, unsubscribe, if yes, what's the problem? Sounds like they're profitable now, so little risk of the service dissapearing. Unnecessary drama by people who live for drama. My only ad…
People pay $0 to Google/Meta/Twitter/TikTok for their base level offerings, and their privacy policy is valid to discuss and criticize. Does it somehow become less important just because they are also getting paid money? People discuss Apple's commitment to privacy and if it is real or adequate.
> People pay $0 to Google/Meta/Twitter/TikTok for their base level offerings
people pay with wasted time and "cognitive load" because of the interstitial ads, and to decipher biases in presented data, though, too.
(i see a sibling comment is similar, but didn't mention wasted time, so leaving this here)
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The founder, Brandon Eich, made donations in favour of banning same-sex marriage. I also refuse to use anything from Brave for this reason.
Brendan Eich also created JavaScript. So you're going to have to pretty much stop using the Internet entirely if you're going to act like his work has anything to do with his political opinions. Personally, I separate a person's work from their political opinions and I think you should too.
Not really. Life doesn't have to be an all-or-nothing dichotomy like this. It is a perfectly fine decision to boycott a product if it is viable to be boycotted, and keep using a product if it's not: using the web without JavaScript is almost impossible, so I'll use it; using the web without Brave is easy, so I won't use it.
This is not about separating a person's work from their political views, it's about not giving more power to people you don't want to have more power. If he is going to use money to campaign against LGBT people, then I'll do my best not to give him money, and I think you should too.