Artificially restricting yourself to inferior silicon is a great way to boost your economy. /s
China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
China is in a weird place that is hard to predict. They have some troubling economic and demographic problems as you said, but also have built up strong tech and manufacturing capabilities. We could easily see China continue to grow in power, even if the middle class continues to be poor.
China also has large swaths of it's population still in a lower income bracket, especially the further you get from the coasts (though the demographics there are not much better). It's going to be very interesting to see what happens over the next few decades (and by interesting I hope in not a terrible way). One of the theories of China's recent, intense sabre rattling is that demographically they'll be in no positi…
Re: China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD
#43In a surprise to no one. This is just tit for tat in the Trump-Biden trade war with China.
Or maybe something more strategic as they ramp up hostilities With Taiwan.
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#44I really just hope consumers will have access to both sides. I know people freak out about hardware backdoors but some of the cheap tech coming out of China sure is cool
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
...What? There is a spectrum of importance to national security, food and energy are very much on the side of more important, so not sure why you chose those as an example. It's extremely reductive to say any country that imposes limits on trade for its own strategic benefit is an autocracy.
Autarky , not autocracy. It’s an economic goal of having an economy that can continue to operate fairly well even if foreign trade is restricted. It’s associated (perhaps not exclusively) with fascist movements, which emphasized national independence from the broader world. (I don’t agree that hedging against potential action by a single major strategic adversary is a strong move toward autarky, however—if, say, Cana…
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#46Artificially restricting yourself to inferior silicon is a great way to boost your economy. /s
Long term though, this enables them to flood the world with previous-gen chips at 1/4th the price.
Oh, and invade Taiwan.
Re: China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD
#47In a surprise to no one. This is just tit for tat in the Trump-Biden trade war with China.
Re: China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD
#48Artificially restricting yourself to inferior silicon is a great way to boost your economy. /s
China's economy seems to be doing just fine https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2024/04/10/chinas-unf...
> This week we had one worldwide cover. China’s famously industrious workforce is shrinking, its property boom has ended and the system of free trade that helped it grow rich is disintegrating.
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/04/04/xi-jinpings-mis...
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#49Artificially restricting yourself to inferior silicon is a great way to boost your economy. /s
RockChip's ARM SoC's are quite fast actually. I run a couple of OrangePi 5Bs which work quite nicely. Mind you these are 4+4 bigLITTLE systems with 35 degrees C idle without any tuning and passive cooling. Huawei is also quite improved on hardware reliability and design department in the last years, so there's no need for concern for them. They still need a Infiniband equivalent network layer for HPC, though.
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#50What are they going to use? RISC-V?
I don't have access behind the paywall. But from the title, if it is only telecom carriers devices, basically RISC-V and ARM chips. Telecom giants like Huawei and ZTE use their own network processor on data plane for a long time, replacing control plane CPU (usually x86 or ARM) is not a big task. Smaller companies who relies on Broadcom solution may have a tough time, but 3 years to find a replacement and finish adap…
Personally, I think 3 years to change the hardware at the heart of your product is a huge ask. Although of course it depends on the quality of the replacement.