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China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD

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Re: China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD

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Post by darby_eight »

Havoc wrote: post #21
makeitdouble wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That won't be that cheap for long though (and I don't see that as a bad thing either) Looking at Huawei or Xiaomi goods, the quality is there and the prices are also getting noticeably higher accordingly.

Agreed though the availability of both would keep prices low by virtue of competition

One can certainly hope that!

Re: China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD

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Post by bobthepanda »

pi-e-sigma wrote: post #4
algem wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is to have a domestic supply chain independent of other nations. It’s becoming vital for security purposes.

By this way of thinking everything is vital for "security purposes" and you end up with a full autarchy. Food is vital because you can't rely on others to feed your population. And so is energy. And so on. What is really going on though is that the US started a trade war with China and it's just another salvo in this war. Soon the US will declare electric cars from China as a "threat" and ban them, too. Probably the…

Onshoring is mostly happening because the disruption due to factory/port COVID lockdowns in China, and then all the issues with ports and canals domestically, made it quite clear that the long distance transpacific supply chain cannot be the only option. At least with Mexico and Canada there are dozens of land crossings that can be diverted to. And if you cannot sell for six months due to supply issues but your competitor can you may as well be a sitting duck.

Re: China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD

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Post by bayindirh »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #29

Artificially restricting yourself to inferior silicon is a great way to boost your economy. /s

RockChip's ARM SoC's are quite fast actually. I run a couple of OrangePi 5Bs which work quite nicely.

Mind you these are 4+4 bigLITTLE systems with 35 degrees C idle without any tuning and passive cooling. Huawei is also quite improved on hardware reliability and design department in the last years, so there's no need for concern for them.

They still need a Infiniband equivalent network layer for HPC, though.

Re: China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD

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Post by sinxccc »

hashtag-til wrote: post #10

What are they going to use? RISC-V?

I don't have access behind the paywall. But from the title, if it is only telecom carriers devices, basically RISC-V and ARM chips.

Telecom giants like Huawei and ZTE use their own network processor on data plane for a long time, replacing control plane CPU (usually x86 or ARM) is not a big task. Smaller companies who relies on Broadcom solution may have a tough time, but 3 years to find a replacement and finish adaptation is not that hard too.

Re: China Tells Telecom Carriers to Phase Out Foreign Chips in Blow to Intel, AMD

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Post by Rinzler89 »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #29

Artificially restricting yourself to inferior silicon is a great way to boost your economy. /s

You're mistaken. Huawei's Kirin Silicon was ahead of what the likes of Qualcomm offered, right before they were banned from TSMC by the US.

It was a damn shame too, right when Qualcomm was getting some needed competition, the US ban happened. Convenient for Qualcomm but a huge blow to consumers.

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