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H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#32
post #26

Since H-1B says it is supposedly intended for high-value employees unobtainable in the US, why not auction the visas, with a reserve price that would prevent them being used to push down wages?

Not "high value", but rather "high skill". Some examples of occupations that need a professional degree in order to be filled.

  Information Technology
    Software engineers
    Database administrators
  Teachers
    Primary
    Secondary
    University
  Health care professionals
    Physicians
    Nurses
    Dentists
    Psychologists
  Engineers
    Civil
    Chemical
    Mechanical
    Industrial
    Surveyors
  
  ... and Fashion models
With an auction approach, would the software engineers completely at big tech companies (or consultancies capable of demanding big tech compensation) continue to be able to drown out the other professions?

https://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=central+consolidated+schoo...

https://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=emory+healthcare+inc&job=&...

The visa lottery makes it difficult to reliably get H1B visa teachers. H1B visa abuse makes it even more difficult. An auction would make the H1B visa program into a "visa for software developers where consultancies charge high prices to win auctions and pay their employees little."

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because regions and industries that pay less would be mad, and they’ve got lots of congressmen.

That could potentially be solved by having different buckets for different regions and industries? Seems like that'd be a much fairer system than the current lottery one.

Different regions can be easily gamed by opening PO Box offices in all the regions.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#34

> Rather than hire US workers to perform the onshore work, these firms hire large numbers of H-1B and L-1 visa workers to fill the jobs in America. Terrible for America. And terrible for India.

But good for the people running the consulting companies, and their friends in politics.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#35
post #26

Since H-1B says it is supposedly intended for high-value employees unobtainable in the US, why not auction the visas, with a reserve price that would prevent them being used to push down wages?

A counter argument I've seen - with auction only IT companies will be able to hire H-1B workers and other industries like healthcare and pharma and even chip production will be out-priced. Different industries have different level of salaries. $200k/y salary may suppress SDE wages in Silicon Valley but it is well above market rate for an electrical or a chemical engineer.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#36

> Rather than hire US workers to perform the onshore work, these firms hire large numbers of H-1B and L-1 visa workers to fill the jobs in America. Terrible for America. And terrible for India.

But good for the people running the consulting companies, and their friends in politics.

Yup and that is why people like Narayan Murthy are the greatest criminals in the history of India. Ruined an entire generation of Indians by teaching them to do second hand work and stopped any original thinking from happening. That is why they are so behind China.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#37

Why is there a lottery anyway instead of a salary ranking/salary threshold system? This'd disincentivize bad actors, ensure the US domestic labor pool is not undercut, and (more or less) lead to higher quality H-1B immigrants.

Because the State of West Virginia needs COBOL programmers for $29/hr, so the prime contractor can bill $90.

(Not singling them out, just using for illustration purposes)

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