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Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by carstenhag »

pietervdvn wrote: post #12

Shameless plug for my project where one can easily see data from and add data to OpenStreetMap: https://MapComplete.org

I looked at a few network requests and you are fetching the country code for some locations, is there some docu on this how/why you are doing so? I soon perhaps also have to implement a simple "is this location in country XY" check and it seems both trivial and complex at the same time to solve, without a full map-aware database/system.

https://github.com/pietervdvn/MapComplete-data/tree/main/lat...

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by david-gpu »

taude wrote: post #17
david-gpu wrote: post #8

OpenStreetMap is great and I only wish more people using apps like Strava, RideWithGPS, Komoot or OSMAnd realized that they can contribute, benefitting everybody else using those apps. In Toronto I only see a very small number of people contributing to OSM's cycling infrastructure, which results in the map not as up-to-date, which in turn means that the aforementioned apps will not propose routes through the nicest,…

If i'm using ridewithgps, how do I contribute? is there an easy tool, or maybe it's something these tools could integrate? I know I ride trails thatdon't always show up on OSM views.

Contributing is simple:

1. When you see a trail or any other feature that doesn't appear on the map, take a picture.

2. When you get home, visit https://www.openstreetmap.org and start drawing.

The website has satellite images overlayed wirh map data, so it's easy to see what you are doing.

You can look at your pictures to remind yourself of what was missing.

If you have recorded your ride,you can also upload your GPX trace to OpenStreetMap to make it easier to trace features that don't show up clearly on satellite images.

Don't be afraid of making mistakes. Look around and start small. Good luck!

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by komali2 »

Arathorn wrote: post #9
komali2 wrote: post #4

I'm really curious how this person got codeberg pages working, I still haven't managed to get a codeberg page deployed. I thought it required a 3rd party server, like their actions seem to. Also: > It's easy to pick a proprietary network like Telegram or an unsustainable one like Matrix, What's unsustainable about Matrix? I've really enjoyed running our community on Matrix.

It seems like the original post may be just a little biased against Matrix in favour of XMPP ;) Matrix has been going strong for 10 years, and while it's true that the Matrix.org Foundation (and Element) need funding (c.f. https://matrix.org/blog/2024/01/2024-roadmap-and-fundraiser/ and https://matrix.org/blog/2024/04/open-source-publicly-funded-... ) it's clear that elsewhere in the Matrix ecosystem there's loads of…

> I'm glad, thank you for using it.

Of course! We love how easy it is to get bots up and running, and the ecosystem of bridges made it really easy to incentivize people to onboard, because we can basically offer "for free" the ability for people to answer their instagram messages without opening instagram, etc.

Our only issue has been onboarding flow. We get that there's an "identity server" but when we use vector.im and generate invite links from for example Element, they usually get sent into a flow where they, confusingly, are making an account on some big home server instead of ours (I think like matrix.org or something). We were going to deploy our own identity server after someone on iirc matrix community chat somewhere mentioned that the email flow is implemented per identity server, but all the FOSS identity servers we could find were deprecated. Anyway now we just give people tokens that we generate in synapse and screenshot instructions lol. The one thing I miss from slack is being able to just right click a Room, click "invite," enter someone's email address, and it's all handled from there.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by komali2 »

progval wrote: post #6
komali2 wrote: post #4

I'm really curious how this person got codeberg pages working, I still haven't managed to get a codeberg page deployed. I thought it required a 3rd party server, like their actions seem to. Also: > It's easy to pick a proprietary network like Telegram or an unsustainable one like Matrix, What's unsustainable about Matrix? I've really enjoyed running our community on Matrix.

Matrix.org (and Element) is running out of money and hosts a large number of free users. The rest of the community probably won't be able to handle the influx of users the day the Matrix.org homeserver needs to close.

That's the usecase of Matrix As IRC I guess you mean? I've never participated in any matrix.org rooms outside of the matrix / synapse / element support rooms (I believe they're on matrix.org). For our community it's kind of moot if matrix.org closes, the only downside is of course support will drop off precipitously. But other than that, we self host.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by zikduruqe »

david-gpu wrote: post #22
taude wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If i'm using ridewithgps, how do I contribute? is there an easy tool, or maybe it's something these tools could integrate? I know I ride trails thatdon't always show up on OSM views.

Contributing is simple: 1. When you see a trail or any other feature that doesn't appear on the map, take a picture. 2. When you get home, visit https://www.openstreetmap.org and start drawing. The website has satellite images overlayed wirh map data, so it's easy to see what you are doing. You can look at your pictures to remind yourself of what was missing. If you have recorded your ride,you can also upload your GP…

This. I have added trails, removed trails, added water fountains, etc... from all my bike rides trying to contribute where I can.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by komali2 »

ikesau wrote: post #15
pietervdvn wrote: post #12

Shameless plug for my project where one can easily see data from and add data to OpenStreetMap: https://MapComplete.org

Similarly, as recommended in the article, StreetComplete[1], which shows incomplete areas on your map and marks them as quests to add to :) Also recommended, Organic Maps[2], which is an OSM client that's good enough to use as my main map app (in my city, at least) Final recommendation, this interview[3] with the founder of OpenStreetMap Steve Coast. 3 hours of fascinating insight into the history and future of the p…

> including how he doesn't think OSM will be relevant for much longer once someone manages to develop a mapping project into their self-driving cars

As someone who intends to never drive again, this is very funny to me. Cars are very obviously not the future of human transport, self driving or otherwise. They take up an absurd amount of space.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by thfuran »

komali2 wrote: post #26
ikesau wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarly, as recommended in the article, StreetComplete[1], which shows incomplete areas on your map and marks them as quests to add to :) Also recommended, Organic Maps[2], which is an OSM client that's good enough to use as my main map app (in my city, at least) Final recommendation, this interview[3] with the founder of OpenStreetMap Steve Coast. 3 hours of fascinating insight into the history and future of the p…

> including how he doesn't think OSM will be relevant for much longer once someone manages to develop a mapping project into their self-driving cars As someone who intends to never drive again, this is very funny to me. Cars are very obviously not the future of human transport, self driving or otherwise. They take up an absurd amount of space.

They're very obviously the near to mid term future of transportation for a huge number of people.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by taude »

jraph wrote: post #19
taude wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If i'm using ridewithgps, how do I contribute? is there an easy tool, or maybe it's something these tools could integrate? I know I ride trails thatdon't always show up on OSM views.

I don't know the app, but a generic way to do it would be to import your GPX trace on osm.org and add paths that are missing.

Cool, that sounds easy enough. I was thinking it'd be great if the app itself I used supported a feature to make it easy to add trails.

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by doctoboggan »

ikesau wrote: post #15
pietervdvn wrote: post #12

Shameless plug for my project where one can easily see data from and add data to OpenStreetMap: https://MapComplete.org

Similarly, as recommended in the article, StreetComplete[1], which shows incomplete areas on your map and marks them as quests to add to :) Also recommended, Organic Maps[2], which is an OSM client that's good enough to use as my main map app (in my city, at least) Final recommendation, this interview[3] with the founder of OpenStreetMap Steve Coast. 3 hours of fascinating insight into the history and future of the p…

Street Complete sounds very interesting to me, but it seems like there is no iOS version?

Re: Organizing OpenStreetMap mapping parties

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Post by lucgommans »

doctoboggan wrote: post #29
ikesau wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarly, as recommended in the article, StreetComplete[1], which shows incomplete areas on your map and marks them as quests to add to :) Also recommended, Organic Maps[2], which is an OSM client that's good enough to use as my main map app (in my city, at least) Final recommendation, this interview[3] with the founder of OpenStreetMap Steve Coast. 3 hours of fascinating insight into the history and future of the p…

Street Complete sounds very interesting to me, but it seems like there is no iOS version?

I guess the OSM community is more defaulting to developing for other open platforms because that's what we mostly use ourselves and can test/run the code on, but iOS is in the making:

Pinned ticket "iOS - Planning": https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/5421

See also the project board: https://github.com/orgs/streetcomplete/projects/1/views/1 showing quite a few things already done, some in progress, and a handful todo or blocked each

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