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The post WW2 cold war is what pushed our understanding of space. So actually modern politics helped with that.

But once the space race to the moon was won - and all major powers had proven they are capable of producing ICBMs - it feels like the energy and financing just went out of it. There's no more political or military gain to be had from space exploration so governments only put in a token amount, and there's only limited commercial gain from e.g. telecom, mapping and navigation, but that's all focused on earth itself. T…

> There's no major financial incentive go to the moon or mars, other than would-be space tourists or colonists that are willing and able to pay for their own trip.

I don't think there's any incentive at all. What reason is there for anyone to go to Mars other than to say they did, at enormous expense and technical effort? Best case scenario, after spending tens of trillions of dollars, we're able to build a base that needs continual resupply from Earth and in which you're basically living in a box - you'll never be able to set foot outside except in a suit, worse even than our Antarctic bases. And even then, we can expect long-term health effects. Well, you can live in a box on Earth.

The reason there isn't major funding for space is because most people don't care all that much. It's a nice thing to have, and I wish more people did support increasing this sort of funding, but it's perfectly understandable why most people don't want to contribute significant percentages of GDP to a scifi dream.

Re: What is Webb observing now?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But once the space race to the moon was won - and all major powers had proven they are capable of producing ICBMs - it feels like the energy and financing just went out of it. There's no more political or military gain to be had from space exploration so governments only put in a token amount, and there's only limited commercial gain from e.g. telecom, mapping and navigation, but that's all focused on earth itself. T…

> There's no major financial incentive go to the moon or mars, other than would-be space tourists or colonists that are willing and able to pay for their own trip. I don't think there's any incentive at all. What reason is there for anyone to go to Mars other than to say they did, at enormous expense and technical effort? Best case scenario, after spending tens of trillions of dollars, we're able to build a base that…

We're not talking about a vanity Mars visit, we're talking about building an X-ray observatory. The JWST has already been phenomenal, it feels like it's delivering an almost daily barrage of discoveries, many of which are already affecting long standing understandings of the universe. The benefit of these projects is that they actually help us to answer the basic questions of existence in a way nothing else does.

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This is so very, very cool. I did hear some horrible news. Seems the funding for the next-gen (or even current maintainence of) Chandra-X ray observatory (space based telescope) won't get approved which is a huge shame. Maybe politicians could be persuaded by sites like these and greater awareness campaigns to not lose such a worthwhile instrument for science. And if it does is there an international equivalent maybe…

Politics and religion slowed down our space exploration by many thousands of years.

science is just a spinoff of philosophy which was religiously motivated. what kind of drug-induced state do you have to be in to think that the Romans would have been flying around the Earth if only everyone thousands of years prior was magically a self-absorbed nihilist

Re: What is Webb observing now?

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This is so very, very cool. I did hear some horrible news. Seems the funding for the next-gen (or even current maintainence of) Chandra-X ray observatory (space based telescope) won't get approved which is a huge shame. Maybe politicians could be persuaded by sites like these and greater awareness campaigns to not lose such a worthwhile instrument for science. And if it does is there an international equivalent maybe…

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Re: What is Webb observing now?

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Politics and religion slowed down our space exploration by many thousands of years.

science is just a spinoff of philosophy which was religiously motivated. what kind of drug-induced state do you have to be in to think that the Romans would have been flying around the Earth if only everyone thousands of years prior was magically a self-absorbed nihilist

Rude phrasing, you shouldn't do that.

Re: What is Webb observing now?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's no major financial incentive go to the moon or mars, other than would-be space tourists or colonists that are willing and able to pay for their own trip. I don't think there's any incentive at all. What reason is there for anyone to go to Mars other than to say they did, at enormous expense and technical effort? Best case scenario, after spending tens of trillions of dollars, we're able to build a base that…

We're not talking about a vanity Mars visit, we're talking about building an X-ray observatory. The JWST has already been phenomenal, it feels like it's delivering an almost daily barrage of discoveries, many of which are already affecting long standing understandings of the universe. The benefit of these projects is that they actually help us to answer the basic questions of existence in a way nothing else does.

Yes, as I said, I wish projects like this did have better funding, but the comment I was replying to mentioned going to the Moon or Mars.
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