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You can't build a moat with AI

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Re: You can't build a moat with AI

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> We firmly believe the moat for AI application is in the data and the data engineering today. At some point, the process of building custom LLMs might get so fast and easy that we’ll all return to building our own models. That simply isn’t the case today. Customized small models will outperform larger general models for your specific use case.

Tell more more about the data moat.

Re: You can't build a moat with AI

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This is probably why Google or Meta will "win" over OpenAI in the end. They have all the data, and no one else even comes close.

Microsoft has plenty of data too. In Microsoft Teams, LinkedIn posts and messages, and Outlook emails.

Microsoft 365 (nee Office 365) as well. And Dynamics 365. And GitHub. And OneDrive. And SharePoint. And Power Platform.

Honestly I think they might have more useful data than Google, given Bing knows more or less that same as GoogleBot. Meta doesn't come close, unless you want your LLM to be purely conversational.

Re: You can't build a moat with AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Large companies like Google will fail at making the most successful LLMs because of internal cultural problems.

Go away ChatGPT

So annoying. I feel sorry for people who actually read that paragraph.

Re: You can't build a moat with AI

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This is probably why Google or Meta will "win" over OpenAI in the end. They have all the data, and no one else even comes close.

Microsoft has plenty of data too. In Microsoft Teams, LinkedIn posts and messages, and Outlook emails.

Plus every company's files in OneDrive and SharePoint.

Re: You can't build a moat with AI

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“What that also means is that you don’t need to be an AI genius to succeed in building applications. With thoughtful software engineering and a focus on customer data, you’ll build a moat over time.”

This sounds encouraging at first glance, but even more demoralizing when you think about it. It doesn’t matter how clever or smart you are over your competitors. If you don’t have the data, you don’t stand a chance. And of course the incumbents have the data not you, the entrepreneur

Re: You can't build a moat with AI

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post #4

> We firmly believe the moat for AI application is in the data and the data engineering today. At some point, the process of building custom LLMs might get so fast and easy that we’ll all return to building our own models. That simply isn’t the case today. Customized small models will outperform larger general models for your specific use case.

No they wont. Any model you train now will be beat by GPT5 easily

I think the real power of customized small models will be running things on local hardware, except that we're in an awkward phase where the local hardware isn't quite beefy enough to run anything really useful yet. Maybe Apple will do something interesting in that space at WWDC.

Re: You can't build a moat with AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they wont. Any model you train now will be beat by GPT5 easily

I think the real power of customized small models will be running things on local hardware, except that we're in an awkward phase where the local hardware isn't quite beefy enough to run anything really useful yet. Maybe Apple will do something interesting in that space at WWDC.

Also not feasible. A network request to groq type machines will outperform your local hardware by such a huge amount that it wont make sense other than some very niche tasks

Re: You can't build a moat with AI

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“What that also means is that you don’t need to be an AI genius to succeed in building applications. With thoughtful software engineering and a focus on customer data, you’ll build a moat over time.” This sounds encouraging at first glance, but even more demoralizing when you think about it. It doesn’t matter how clever or smart you are over your competitors. If you don’t have the data, you don’t stand a chance. And…

I don't see it that way. If you build a genuinely novel application then the critical data doesn't exist yet (IMO almost by definition). Sometimes it's easier for a startup to do this rather than for an incumbent who's trying to shoehorn the application into a preexisting framework (technical, operational, whatever).
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