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I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

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Re: I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

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Developers go to hackathons because they like to build things. What could be simpler to understand?

Kinda like this...

Dear Hackers,

Here is the challenge:

Please create the next killer app, and give all the rights to me so I can take all of your work and make a bundle of cash. I know you like building things, and I like making money. Seems like a good arrangement to me. I might even throw in a free T-shirt.

Re: I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

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I appreciate the sentiment greatly, and I'm only in the valley about once a month or so (and not in the startup circles) so I can't speak to how intentional the exploitation is, but from the other side: At 34, I can hardly be considered the youthful optimist he casts us at. I have a life, and a family, but I really enjoy the occasional hackathon. In fact, I'd suspect that a lot of my best code is done without the dis…

Agreed - focused time without distraction is golden. But having experienced a lot of hackathons, they're just thinly veiled attempts at pushing ticket sales at events or ways for companies to get more work out of their staff.

Re: I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

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post #3

Developers go to hackathons because they like to build things. What could be simpler to understand?

Kinda like this... Dear Hackers, Here is the challenge: Please create the next killer app, and give all the rights to me so I can take all of your work and make a bundle of cash. I know you like building things, and I like making money. Seems like a good arrangement to me. I might even throw in a free T-shirt.

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Re: I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

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post #3

Developers go to hackathons because they like to build things. What could be simpler to understand?

I understand that. It doesn't mean they're not being used though. If you want to build something, it's much better to get your friends together for a private session, then something put on by an events company or an incubator. As someone who used to put on events, I can speak with authority on motives: most Hackathons are just an attempt to sell more tickets to an event - not a genuine opportunity for Developers to b…

I'm guessing that a big attraction is that these events provide motivation. It's like telling an athlete that if they want to exercise, they can do so any time on their own. There's no need to go to the olympics to do it there. However, most likely wouldn't mind being used because the benefits go both ways.

Re: I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

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Developers go to hackathons because they like to build things. What could be simpler to understand?

I understand that. It doesn't mean they're not being used though. If you want to build something, it's much better to get your friends together for a private session, then something put on by an events company or an incubator. As someone who used to put on events, I can speak with authority on motives: most Hackathons are just an attempt to sell more tickets to an event - not a genuine opportunity for Developers to b…

I'm confused. Do people pay to attend hackathons? I can understand a contribution to costs (ie for pizza etc) if there are no sponsors but paying seems odd.

I've run one hackathon myself and it most of the feedback I got was quite positive. Off the top of my head, the things that people liked were; the chance to meet/work with new folks in a low-risk way, to try out some new tech/language/framework that they'd never got round to, do something within a short deadline.

Overall, it went pretty well and it I don't think anyone was (or felt) 'used'.

Re: I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

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post #3

Developers go to hackathons because they like to build things. What could be simpler to understand?

Kinda like this... Dear Hackers, Here is the challenge: Please create the next killer app, and give all the rights to me so I can take all of your work and make a bundle of cash. I know you like building things, and I like making money. Seems like a good arrangement to me. I might even throw in a free T-shirt.

You've been going to the wrong hackathons then. If you look hard enough you'll find some where you don't need to sign anything, and if you can't find any, start planning one.

Re: I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

#18
post #8

I don't think you can tar and feather all hackathons. Some of the events I support are where groups unite to help charities or civic hacking that supports communities.

Building things for charities is an entirely different thing. I should've clarified that in the article. I'm referring to for-profit ventures

Re: I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

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post #3

Developers go to hackathons because they like to build things. What could be simpler to understand?

Kinda like this... Dear Hackers, Here is the challenge: Please create the next killer app, and give all the rights to me so I can take all of your work and make a bundle of cash. I know you like building things, and I like making money. Seems like a good arrangement to me. I might even throw in a free T-shirt.

Throw in free Pizza and a few beers and I'll be there.

I would relish the opportunity to meet new people and work on something different.

Re: I’m tired of the opportunists and their hackathons

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I've been to two hackathon type events. I would have gone to more, but I was living in an area without much of a startup/hacker scene.

The first was SuperHappyDevHouse, following Startup School in 2006. It was mostly hackers working on their own projects and occasionally collaborating. I saw no evidence of anybody attempting to exploit anybody else, especially not non-hackers trying to get free work from hackers.

This was the second: http://hackd.it/. I've gone a couple times now, and didn't feel like there was any exploitation going on there. The ratio of hackers to non-hackers was good and people seemed to mostly be working on things they had a stake in.

A similar event run by non-technical people looking to get their ideas built cheap/free wouldn't be enjoyable for hackers, I expect. If you know an event is like that, don't go.

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