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Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Post by bbertelsen »

pbohun wrote: post #24
AlotOfReading wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To illustrate how good kagi is, here's the things it's not as good at (for me): 1) the weather widget doesn't show precipitation chances in the future, only for today 2) historical queries like "newspaper articles on interest rates from 1/1/2008" are subpar compared to Google. Probably related to the recency of their index. 3) hyperlocal queries that rely on contextual information like location need to have that info…

In the old days, I could search for something niche on Google and get blogs/enthusiast websites. Does Kagi do that, or will I only get commercial results like modern Google?

Yes, you can ask it for small web results and they are mostly personal websites.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Post by nine_k »

rileyphone wrote: post #8
NuSkooler wrote: post #4

That's some super steep pricing

$10 a month?

If you're in the Silicon Valley and spend most of your day on the Internet, $10 for superb search is a no-brainer.

If you're a student / postgrad somewhere in the US, it still likely feels worth the price, even though $10 is already not below the threshold of observability.

If you are, say, somewhere in Thailand, or Uzbekistan, or Botswana, the $10/mo become unironically noticeable: not prohibitive, but you really want to get a lot of value in exchange.

And basically anywhere in the world, if you're a kid, and mom and dad would not buy Kagi for you, you're out of luck.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Post by ipaddr »

pbohun wrote: post #24
AlotOfReading wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To illustrate how good kagi is, here's the things it's not as good at (for me): 1) the weather widget doesn't show precipitation chances in the future, only for today 2) historical queries like "newspaper articles on interest rates from 1/1/2008" are subpar compared to Google. Probably related to the recency of their index. 3) hyperlocal queries that rely on contextual information like location need to have that info…

In the old days, I could search for something niche on Google and get blogs/enthusiast websites. Does Kagi do that, or will I only get commercial results like modern Google?

They filters out sites with ads or trackers. The results are clean sites. Some blogs/old sites do have ads so it's not exactly like google. Naturally Porn / nsfw types site are missing.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Post by digitalsin »

I've been using Kagi since June of 2022, daily. I had to use Google the other day because I was on someone else's PC and in that moment I was reminded just how awful Google's search has become. You genuinely see how you're the product when you use Google these days.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

#35

Post by biglyburrito »

pbohun wrote: post #24
AlotOfReading wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To illustrate how good kagi is, here's the things it's not as good at (for me): 1) the weather widget doesn't show precipitation chances in the future, only for today 2) historical queries like "newspaper articles on interest rates from 1/1/2008" are subpar compared to Google. Probably related to the recency of their index. 3) hyperlocal queries that rely on contextual information like location need to have that info…

In the old days, I could search for something niche on Google and get blogs/enthusiast websites. Does Kagi do that, or will I only get commercial results like modern Google?

Sign up for the Kagi trial (100 free searches) & see for yourself. If garbage floats to the top, you can easily block the domain or lower its ranking in your results by mousing over the shield to the right of the search result. If you find blog/enthusiast sites you like, raise their ranking in your results the same way.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Post by [deleted] »

kelnos wrote: post #16
NuSkooler wrote: post #4

That's some super steep pricing

It only feels that way because search has been free essentially forever. But think -- really think -- about how much value you get out of search. Like, if you didn't have search, would you even be able to use the web? I think $10/mo for something I critically rely on several tens of times a day is a bargain! Certainly it might be hard to sell search at $10/mo when people can get by at $0/mo. But that isn't the same t…

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Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

#37

Post by biglyburrito »

mandeepj wrote: post #26
rfarley04 wrote: post #3

I finally switched to Kagi last month after reading a bunch of HN comments that boiled down to "trust me, it's worth it." And now I'm here to say "trust me, it's worth it."

> a bunch of HN comments that boiled down to "trust me, it's worth it." What happened to Duck Duck Go?

It's still around, but their search results are lackluster; I was constantly having to rerun the same query in Google to find what I knew was out there. Kagi's search results are way better -- close enough to how good Google used to be 10-15yrs ago that I'm willing to pay $10/mo for it.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Post by rfarley04 »

pbohun wrote: post #24
AlotOfReading wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To illustrate how good kagi is, here's the things it's not as good at (for me): 1) the weather widget doesn't show precipitation chances in the future, only for today 2) historical queries like "newspaper articles on interest rates from 1/1/2008" are subpar compared to Google. Probably related to the recency of their index. 3) hyperlocal queries that rely on contextual information like location need to have that info…

In the old days, I could search for something niche on Google and get blogs/enthusiast websites. Does Kagi do that, or will I only get commercial results like modern Google?

Yea, you'd use the "small web" lens: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/lenses.html

(I swear I don't work for Kagi haha, I just love this product so much)

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Post by bbertelsen »

rfarley04 wrote: post #3

I finally switched to Kagi last month after reading a bunch of HN comments that boiled down to "trust me, it's worth it." And now I'm here to say "trust me, it's worth it."

I love that you can pin, raise or lower results from specific websites. They also set it up so you can see popular raise/lower and pins. It's wonderful. Trust me too, it's worth it. ~850 searches a month here.

Re: Introducing Kagi Search's New Design

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Post by yoshamano »

mandeepj wrote: post #26
rfarley04 wrote: post #3

I finally switched to Kagi last month after reading a bunch of HN comments that boiled down to "trust me, it's worth it." And now I'm here to say "trust me, it's worth it."

> a bunch of HN comments that boiled down to "trust me, it's worth it." What happened to Duck Duck Go?

Nothing.

Its still there and still my goto search engine when I'm not on one of my personal devices.

I just prefer Kagi now because I pay for it so I'm their customer not their product. I also like the configuration options Kagi offers.

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