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Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF Files

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Re: Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF Files

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post #9

I'd say this doesn't bypass anything, it's just some kind of virtual device? I'm using it to read legally purchased books on unsupported hardware.

Would it be the same as using an emulator to play a Nintendo game on your PC?

That would be totally illegal if Nintendo was making the laws, but yes, pretty much.

Re: Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF Files

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post #2

I've used this several times to read books I've legally purchased. An indispensable bit of software.

I adamantly believe that this is morally and ethically OK in all situations. If you buy a copy of a book, it's your right to read it on any device of yours you want, even ones that haven't been manufactured yet. I bought a copy of Stephen King's "The Stand" 30 years ago and it's still on a bookshelf here ready for me to read at any time. If I'd bought an ebook copy of it instead, I'm just as ethically permitted to re…

(Devil's advocate here)

When you made an Amazon account, and each time you purchase one of their ebooks, you agree to their "Terms of Service", which states that you won't do some of the things you want to do with your ebook. Amazon wouldn't sell/license you the book if you told them you were going to break the DRM and read it on a Kobo.

In effect, you're lying to Amazon in order to use their property in a way they specifically don't want you to.

(Devil's advocate done)

Can I ask you to consider buying your ebooks from a better vendor? Kobo is a good choice; they state whether or not a given book is DRM-free or not; if it's DRM-free, that's a clear win - and even when they do include DRM, it's Adobe, so you can load it on any e-reader (except Kindle (except if you use KOReader)). Google Play Books are basically the same as Kobo, but they don't state up-front if a book has DRM or not.

Also, it's pretty common for technical books and some fiction presses to sell e-books directly on their site, and those never have DRM in my experience.

On the other hand, supporting Amazon is supporting a company who wants to promote DRM aggressively. And you can almost always find the same books elsewhere.

Re: Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF Files

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I adamantly believe that this is morally and ethically OK in all situations. If you buy a copy of a book, it's your right to read it on any device of yours you want, even ones that haven't been manufactured yet. I bought a copy of Stephen King's "The Stand" 30 years ago and it's still on a bookshelf here ready for me to read at any time. If I'd bought an ebook copy of it instead, I'm just as ethically permitted to re…

(Devil's advocate here) When you made an Amazon account, and each time you purchase one of their ebooks, you agree to their "Terms of Service", which states that you won't do some of the things you want to do with your ebook. Amazon wouldn't sell/license you the book if you told them you were going to break the DRM and read it on a Kobo. In effect, you're lying to Amazon in order to use their property in a way they s…

Whenever someone invokes the "terms of service" I just get annoyed. I live in the US where we have absolutely no consumer rights and every company can put anything they want in the ToS or EULA, and if it violates the law they aren't punished (such as illegal warranty restrictions). Most EULAs even have a clause that says something like "if any part of this contract is illegal, ignore it and the rest is still enforced". If companies can put anything they want into it and aren't punished for breaking the law, it's 100% up to consumers to ignore the ToS and ignore the EULA as much as possible.

And if you're really paying for a limited license to use their property, they should have to call it that. Amazon calls it a "store" where you "buy" the books. They'd make a lot less sales if the "buy now with 1 click" button said "purchase a limited license to access this book for some period of time".

Re: Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF Files

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I adamantly believe that this is morally and ethically OK in all situations. If you buy a copy of a book, it's your right to read it on any device of yours you want, even ones that haven't been manufactured yet. I bought a copy of Stephen King's "The Stand" 30 years ago and it's still on a bookshelf here ready for me to read at any time. If I'd bought an ebook copy of it instead, I'm just as ethically permitted to re…

(Devil's advocate here) When you made an Amazon account, and each time you purchase one of their ebooks, you agree to their "Terms of Service", which states that you won't do some of the things you want to do with your ebook. Amazon wouldn't sell/license you the book if you told them you were going to break the DRM and read it on a Kobo. In effect, you're lying to Amazon in order to use their property in a way they s…

The devil doesn't need an advocate. You think he's running low on lawyers?

But I agree with you about buying from Amazon. I haven't bought an ebook from them in at least many years, perhaps not ever that I remember. I've never owned a Kindle and I'm not sure I could even load one of their books on my Kobo (or the Nook I owned way back when). I buy most of my books from Kobo's store, but also check out a lot from my library via Libby. I recently bought a bundle of Cory Doctorow's books from Tor (through Humble Bundle), and I downloaded plenty from Standard Ebooks.

If there's a book I'd like to read that's only available from Amazon, I haven't stumbled across it yet.

Re: Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF Files

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I’ve been trying to get access to Adobe’s RMSDK for months, but their email is just a brick wall. A dev I know who works at Adobe said he can’t find any internal docs for it either. Does anyone know what’s going on with it?

Anyway, this is a godsend, so thank you!

Re: Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF Files

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post #13

I’m probably reading this wrong, but “gourou” (狗肉) is dog meat in Chinese.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/gourou Given that the hosting site is on a French domain, I'm guessing this is the intended meaning.

Adept -> Guru is the logical association

Re: Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF Files

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I adamantly believe that this is morally and ethically OK in all situations. If you buy a copy of a book, it's your right to read it on any device of yours you want, even ones that haven't been manufactured yet. I bought a copy of Stephen King's "The Stand" 30 years ago and it's still on a bookshelf here ready for me to read at any time. If I'd bought an ebook copy of it instead, I'm just as ethically permitted to re…

(Devil's advocate here) When you made an Amazon account, and each time you purchase one of their ebooks, you agree to their "Terms of Service", which states that you won't do some of the things you want to do with your ebook. Amazon wouldn't sell/license you the book if you told them you were going to break the DRM and read it on a Kobo. In effect, you're lying to Amazon in order to use their property in a way they s…

Civil disobedience can be valuable. TOS are often FOS

Re: Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF Files

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I adamantly believe that this is morally and ethically OK in all situations. If you buy a copy of a book, it's your right to read it on any device of yours you want, even ones that haven't been manufactured yet. I bought a copy of Stephen King's "The Stand" 30 years ago and it's still on a bookshelf here ready for me to read at any time. If I'd bought an ebook copy of it instead, I'm just as ethically permitted to re…

(Devil's advocate here) When you made an Amazon account, and each time you purchase one of their ebooks, you agree to their "Terms of Service", which states that you won't do some of the things you want to do with your ebook. Amazon wouldn't sell/license you the book if you told them you were going to break the DRM and read it on a Kobo. In effect, you're lying to Amazon in order to use their property in a way they s…

> Google Play Books are basically the same as Kobo, but they don't state up-front if a book has DRM or not.

they absolutely do. https://i.imgur.com/VA3G54Z.png

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