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Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
99% of the population finds this easier than setting up a user/pass. If you care about this, understand that you will not be the target user for most new apps. Incredible that this comes up on so many new Show HNs.
It's quite the opposite for professional audience, most people don't want to give away their Google credentials to a 3rd party website that can get hacked tomorrow.
> most people don't want to give away their Google credentials to a 3rd party website
Good thing that’s not how it works then I suppose.
Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator
#123This has to be bad for Spotify, right? Infinite low cost music generation from multiple competitors challenges Spotify's moat and forces them to develop a similar product and compete away profits from innumerable challengers - or else just go out of business.
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#124This app made my day. I literally just created my dream CD of Weird-Al-inspired parody songs. thank you.
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#125I'm interested to hear more about your statement of "Our goal is to enable more of you, not replace you." Speaking as a musician who plays real instruments (as opposed to electronic production): how does this help me? And how does this enable more of me? I am asking with an open mind, with no cynicism intended.
Inspiration? You can generate hundreds of ideas in a day. The tracks will not be perfect but that's where actual musicians can take the ideas/themes from the tracks and perfect it. In this way it is a tool only useful to expert musicians.
I mean if you want inspiration there are literally millions of amazing songs on Spotify by real musicians. I have yet to hear an AI composed song that was in the least bit musically inspiring.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
But then why are you going down the dead-end route of generating complete songs? Nobody wants this except marketing people. I've said it before, there, is no consumer market for an infinity jukebox because you can't sing along with songs you don't already know, there's already an overabundance of recorded music, and emotion in generative music (especially vocals) is fake. Nobody likes fakery for its own sake. Markete…
I've essentially been running an infinity jukebox for the last week. I save the ones I like and relisten. Simple as that. Edit: It's been interesting watching non-musicians argue about emotion in music. I don't care who you are, the 300th time you perform a song, you're faking it to a large degree. People see musicians as these iconic, deep, geniuses, but most of us are just doing our job. You don't get excited about…
But emotion was (most likely) involved when you wrote or first recorded the song, and that’s what people connect with.
If you go to a concert and you hear the headliner play a love ballad followed up by a breakup song, you don’t expect them to actually be going through those emotions in real time.
Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator
#127I was going to ask what it was coded in then noticed '/Home' in the URL bar. Is this by chance ASP .NET? :)
No, it's React (Native Web) Navigation... mistakes were made haha.
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#128I want to say two things -- one congrats - I am sure your team has been working exceptionally hard to develop this - and the songs sound reasonable good for AI! Two I am soo competely unenthusiastic about AI music and it infiltrating the music world - all of it sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard. Just mainstream overproduced low quality radio music. I know its a stepping stone but it kills me to listen to it rig…
Agreed. My thoughts on this are here; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39992817#39994616 Also, our model specifically excels at songs from the era before overproduction. Try asking for a Johnny Cash or Ella Fitzgerald-style country or swing/jazz song! Here's an example: https://sonauto.ai/songs/taJX3GrKZW7C5qOhjopr
how does the model know how to do a johnny cash style? did you feed it johnny cash tracks? if so, what were the licensing terms? are you interested in answering these questions about training data or would this be too dodgy to chat about on a tech website?
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#129Is there a music-generating AI that takes audio as input? I’m looking to upload simple guitar melodies or chord progressions I’ve doodled and receive an enhanced version back. Similar to how image generators turn doodles/sketches into polished drawings.
Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator
#130I'm interested to hear more about your statement of "Our goal is to enable more of you, not replace you." Speaking as a musician who plays real instruments (as opposed to electronic production): how does this help me? And how does this enable more of me? I am asking with an open mind, with no cynicism intended.
If the future of music was truly just typing some text into a box and taking or leaving what the machine gives you that would be kinda depressing. We want you to be able to upload recordings of your real instruments and do all sorts of cool things with them (e.g., transform them, generate vocals for your guitar riff, use the melody as a jazz song, or just get some inspiration for what to add next). IMO AI alone will…
> If the future of music was truly just typing some text into a box and taking or leaving what the machine gives you that would be kinda depressing.
Hm... From my vantage point, it seems like a pretty weird choice of businesses if you think that.
> IMO AI alone will never be able to touch hearts like real people do, but people using AI will be able to like never before.
That's all very heartwarming but musicianship is also a profession, not just a human expression of creativity. Even if you're not charging yet, you're a business and plan on profiting from this, right? It seems to me that:
1) Generally, if people want music currently, they pay for musician-created music, even if its wildly undervalued in venues like streaming services.
2) You took music, most of which people already paid musicians to create and they aren't getting paid any more because of this, and you used it to make an automated service that people will be able to pay for music instead of paying musicians.
3) Your service certainly doesn't hurt, and might even enhance people's ability to write and perform music without considering the economics of doing so. For example, hobbyists.
4) So you're not trying to replace musicians making music with people typing in prompts-- you're trying to replace musicians being paid to make music with you being paid to make music. Right? Your business isn't replacing musicianship as a human art form, but for it to succeed, it will have to replace it, in some amount, as a profession, right? Unless you are planning on creating an entirely new market for music, fundamentally, I'm not sure how it couldn't.
Am I wrong on the facts, here? If so, well hey, this is capitalism and that's just how it works around here. If I'm mistaken, I'd like to hear how. Regardless, this is very consequential to a lot of people, and they deserve the people driving these changes to be upfront about it-- not gloss over it.