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Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by suyash »

swalsh wrote: post #50
bufferoverflow wrote: post #11

Check out what Udio can produce. It's so far ahead. https://twitter.com/nasescobar316/status/1777481957774872704 https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1777905772384678149 https://twitter.com/HalimAlrasihi/status/1778118063138673137 https://twitter.com/AngryTomtweets/status/177811764524768059... https://twitter.com/AngryTomtweets/status/177811769943385715...

None of these "songs" have any emotion.. AI music just doesn't make me "feel" anything yet.

I bet that's only becuase you know it's created by AI. If no one told you that and you hear someone sing that song and play along bet you will feel. AI is only getting better, it will be just as good as any human and only way we will be able to tell is when it's disclosed if it's AI-generated or not.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by ale42 »

zaptrem wrote: post #43
givinguflac wrote: post #38

Any plans for alternate login systems? Don’t want to use a Google account personally. I’d love to try it though. Thanks!

Which providers would you prefer? We tried Twitter last night but it wasn't working for some reason (kept redirecting immediately with no oauth page).

Hacker news ;-) But I guess there's no OAuth or other similar function on HN...

More seriously, personally none of them, I don't have accounts on any "usually used" login providers. Just allow local accounts.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by ctrw »

dwallin wrote: post #55

I think the problem here is the same one as the other current music generation services. Iteration is so important to creativity and right now you can't really properly iterate. In order to get the right song you just spray and pray and keep generating until one that is sufficient arrives or you give up. I know you hint at this being a future direction of development but in my opinion it's a key feature to take these…

Basically you need something like comfy UI for music.

Variation in small details is fine, but you need control over larger scale structure.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by bongodongobob »

anigbrowl wrote: post #94
zaptrem wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the future of music was truly just typing some text into a box and taking or leaving what the machine gives you that would be kinda depressing. We want you to be able to upload recordings of your real instruments and do all sorts of cool things with them (e.g., transform them, generate vocals for your guitar riff, use the melody as a jazz song, or just get some inspiration for what to add next). IMO AI alone will…

But then why are you going down the dead-end route of generating complete songs? Nobody wants this except marketing people. I've said it before, there, is no consumer market for an infinity jukebox because you can't sing along with songs you don't already know, there's already an overabundance of recorded music, and emotion in generative music (especially vocals) is fake. Nobody likes fakery for its own sake. Markete…

I've essentially been running an infinity jukebox for the last week. I save the ones I like and relisten. Simple as that.

Edit: It's been interesting watching non-musicians argue about emotion in music. I don't care who you are, the 300th time you perform a song, you're faking it to a large degree. People see musicians as these iconic, deep, geniuses, but most of us are just doing our job. You don't get excited about the 300th boilerplate getter and setter just like we aren't super excited about playing some song for the 300th time. It's a performance. It's pretend. A musician singing is like an actor performing. It's not as real as you think it is.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by suyash »

ragnarok451 wrote: post #41
bogwog wrote: post #14

> Sign in with Google Why?

99% of the population finds this easier than setting up a user/pass. If you care about this, understand that you will not be the target user for most new apps. Incredible that this comes up on so many new Show HNs.

It's quite the opposite for professional audience, most people don't want to give away their Google credentials to a 3rd party website that can get hacked tomorrow.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by ragnarok451 »

suyash wrote: post #115
ragnarok451 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of the population finds this easier than setting up a user/pass. If you care about this, understand that you will not be the target user for most new apps. Incredible that this comes up on so many new Show HNs.

It's quite the opposite for professional audience, most people don't want to give away their Google credentials to a 3rd party website that can get hacked tomorrow.

lol tell that to all the (quite successful) B2B SaaS apps that started with Google login as their only option

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by kposehn »

999900000999 wrote: post #5

What quality are you producing here ? Suno has this issue too, but everything sounds like it's washed out or something. As if you recorded it from a different room. Still I love this, ultimately I think it'll be a tool musicians use vs something for creating stand alone art

I've found that adding prompt elements such as "hi-fi", "sharp imaging" and "clear soundstage" have helped create a less compressed and generally cleaner sound.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by mschulkind »

garyrob wrote: post #66

My hobby is songwriting. (Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjng3UoKkGk ) I play guitar, but I'm not much of a guitarist or singer. I really like songwriting, not trying to be polished as a performer. So I intermittently look into the AI world to see whether it has tools I could use to generate a higher-quality song demo than I could do on my own. I've been looking for something that could take a chord progres…

Check out this AI vocals plugin. It's pretty impressive already.

https://youtu.be/PCYTqDSUbvU

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by 93po »

adrianh wrote: post #53

I'm interested to hear more about your statement of "Our goal is to enable more of you, not replace you." Speaking as a musician who plays real instruments (as opposed to electronic production): how does this help me? And how does this enable more of me? I am asking with an open mind, with no cynicism intended.

When Suno came out I spent literally hours/days playing around with it to generate music, and came out with some that's really close to good, and good enough I've gone back to listen to a few. I'd love the tooling to take a premise and be able to tweak it to my liking without spending 1000 hours learning specific software and without thousands of hours learning to play an instrument or learning to sing.
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