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Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Just to clarify, when you say never . Do you actually mean never (or some practical equivalent like ~100 years), or do you mean not right now, but possibly in 5-10 years? I'm just asking to try to build some intuition on what people who actually train soa models think were capabilities are heading. Either way, congrats on the launch :)

Never == "There will never be tears in my eyes as an AI sings ChatGPT-generated lyrics about the cycle of poverty a woman is stuck in ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Car ) because I know all of those experiences are made up."

Assume a song comes on the radio in 3 years and you like it. How do you know it's not entirely AI-generated?

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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I think the problem here is the same one as the other current music generation services. Iteration is so important to creativity and right now you can't really properly iterate. In order to get the right song you just spray and pray and keep generating until one that is sufficient arrives or you give up. I know you hint at this being a future direction of development but in my opinion it's a key feature to take these…

Yep, I came to similar conclusions w/ text-to-audio models - in terms of creative work the ability to iterate is really lacking with the current interfaces. We've stopped working on text-to-audio models and are instead focusing on targeting a lower-level of abstraction by directly exposing an Ableton environment to LLM agents.

We just published a blog today discussing this - https://montyanderson.net/writing/synthesis

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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I'll keep an eye out for that! The variations feature in Suno is a good example of what not to do here, as it effectively just makes another random iteration using existing settings. I think the other missing pieces I've found are upscaling and stem splitting. While existing tool exist for splitting stems exist, my testing found that this didn't work well in practice (at least on Suno music), likely due to a combinat…

Our variations feature will be nothing like Suno's (which just generates another song using the same prompt/lyrics). Since we use a diffusion model, we can actually restart the generation process from an early timestep (e.g., with a similar seed or even parts of the existing song) to get exactly what you're looking for.

> Our variations feature will be nothing like Suno's (which just generates another song using the same prompt/lyrics).

That's their "Remix" feature which just got renamed "Reuse prompt" or something.

Their extend feature generates a new song starting from an arbitrary timestamp, with a new prompt. It doesn't always work for drastic style changes and it can be a bit repetitive with some songs but it doesn't completely reroll the entire song.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to clarify, when you say never . Do you actually mean never (or some practical equivalent like ~100 years), or do you mean not right now, but possibly in 5-10 years? I'm just asking to try to build some intuition on what people who actually train soa models think were capabilities are heading. Either way, congrats on the launch :)

Personally I get very worried reading statements like "AI will never be able to do X", because they seem like obviously false statements. I think if one asserts AI will never be able to do a thing a human brain can do, that needs to be proven, rather than the other way around. For example, if we could reverse engineer the entire human neurology and build an artificial replica of it, why wouldn't we expect it to be ab…

I don't understand those "AI will never be able to do X" statements.

Surely AI will be able to do _anything_ in 1000 years. In 100 years it will almost definitely be able to replace most knowledge-based jobs.

Even today it can take away many entry-level jobs, e.g. a small business no longer needs to hire someone to write a jingle, or create a logo.

In 10 years, I would expect much of programming to either disappear or dramatically shift.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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post #53

I'm interested to hear more about your statement of "Our goal is to enable more of you, not replace you." Speaking as a musician who plays real instruments (as opposed to electronic production): how does this help me? And how does this enable more of me? I am asking with an open mind, with no cynicism intended.

That is just 'marketing speak' so as long you are their customers, they need to make money from users who will be using their service to make music.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Why solve it at all? 10,000 fake accounts for every human is working out great for Elon. =) Seriously, though - the solution isn't to prevent people from doing this, it is to remove the incentives that encourage it.

How do you remove the incentive? Don't allow free accounts?

Don't use accounts at all for non-paid features.
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