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Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by zaptrem »

dwallin wrote: post #75
zaptrem wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our variations feature coming very soon is exactly this! Rhythm Control is an early version of this.

I'll keep an eye out for that! The variations feature in Suno is a good example of what not to do here, as it effectively just makes another random iteration using existing settings. I think the other missing pieces I've found are upscaling and stem splitting. While existing tool exist for splitting stems exist, my testing found that this didn't work well in practice (at least on Suno music), likely due to a combinat…

Our variations feature will be nothing like Suno's (which just generates another song using the same prompt/lyrics). Since we use a diffusion model, we can actually restart the generation process from an early timestep (e.g., with a similar seed or even parts of the existing song) to get exactly what you're looking for.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by postalrat »

swalsh wrote: post #50
bufferoverflow wrote: post #11

Check out what Udio can produce. It's so far ahead. https://twitter.com/nasescobar316/status/1777481957774872704 https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1777905772384678149 https://twitter.com/HalimAlrasihi/status/1778118063138673137 https://twitter.com/AngryTomtweets/status/177811764524768059... https://twitter.com/AngryTomtweets/status/177811769943385715...

None of these "songs" have any emotion.. AI music just doesn't make me "feel" anything yet.

Probably because you haven't heard them before.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by zaptrem »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #72
zaptrem wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our variations feature coming very soon is exactly this! Rhythm Control is an early version of this.

More strength does what? More or less similar?

More strength = force rhythm more. If you crank it to max it will probably result in just a drum line, so I prefer 3-4.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by zaptrem »

Version467 wrote: post #69
zaptrem wrote: post #56

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If the future of music was truly just typing some text into a box and taking or leaving what the machine gives you that would be kinda depressing. We want you to be able to upload recordings of your real instruments and do all sorts of cool things with them (e.g., transform them, generate vocals for your guitar riff, use the melody as a jazz song, or just get some inspiration for what to add next). IMO AI alone will…

Just to clarify, when you say never . Do you actually mean never (or some practical equivalent like ~100 years), or do you mean not right now, but possibly in 5-10 years? I'm just asking to try to build some intuition on what people who actually train soa models think were capabilities are heading. Either way, congrats on the launch :)

Never == "There will never be tears in my eyes as an AI sings ChatGPT-generated lyrics about the cycle of poverty a woman is stuck in (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Car) because I know all of those experiences are made up."

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by 4chandaily »

postalrat wrote: post #80
4chandaily wrote: post #54

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Basic username and password auth has worked for millions for decades. If you absolutely must collect user data for some reason, an email address can be used as the username. This isn't a hard problem to solve.

The problem is 1 person creating 10,000 accounts. Solve that and you will be rich.

Why solve it at all? 10,000 fake accounts for every human is working out great for Elon. =)

Seriously, though - the solution isn't to prevent people from doing this, it is to remove the incentives that encourage it.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by rideontime »

garyrob wrote: post #66

My hobby is songwriting. (Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjng3UoKkGk ) I play guitar, but I'm not much of a guitarist or singer. I really like songwriting, not trying to be polished as a performer. So I intermittently look into the AI world to see whether it has tools I could use to generate a higher-quality song demo than I could do on my own. I've been looking for something that could take a chord progres…

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Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by 4chandaily »

zaptrem wrote: post #59
4chandaily wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basic username and password auth has worked for millions for decades. If you absolutely must collect user data for some reason, an email address can be used as the username. This isn't a hard problem to solve.

For us it had nothing to do with collecting user data, adding what you mentioned would have just required another few hours of dev time haha. You’re right that it’s not hard to solve, we just wanted to focus on the rest of the app since there’s only two of us. We can definitely add this though!

Well, what I could see from this side of the wall looked professional and well put together. Impressive for a team of two.

Congrats on the launch, regardless. I will be sure to check it out when it becomes more accessible.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by herval »

What’s your thoughts on copyright and how holders might react in a system like that?

My understanding of the music industry is the incumbents are VERY lawsuit happy, and plagiarism laws are substantially more reaching than with image or video (eg cases where someone gets sued for using the same chords as another song) - how do you plan to approach all that?

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by lta »

zaptrem wrote: post #24
lta wrote: post #23

I've tried to look a little bit around but couldn't find anything, so I'll ask here. Any plans to release the model(s) under an open license ?

This would be so cool, but we need to think more about how we could do it and make enough money in the future to train more models with even cooler features.

That's a very polite way to say no. Thanks for the answer.

Personally not interested then. I'll stick with Bitwig and Ardour until an open model is available

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