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Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by throwup238 »

klohto wrote: post #25
bufferoverflow wrote: post #11

Check out what Udio can produce. It's so far ahead. https://twitter.com/nasescobar316/status/1777481957774872704 https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1777905772384678149 https://twitter.com/HalimAlrasihi/status/1778118063138673137 https://twitter.com/AngryTomtweets/status/177811764524768059... https://twitter.com/AngryTomtweets/status/177811769943385715...

meh, Suno v3 still has better quality for me personally

In my experience with Suno ($40 spent so far) sound quality is worse than the cherry picked examples from Udio - especially the vocals - but everything I've heard from Udio could best be described as the elevator music equivalent of their respective genres so that's probably why it sounds so good. There seems to be a real quality vs originality trade off in the state of the art.

That said, I've only had the chance to generate a few songs with Udio and they have all sounded like they were recorded by a prison band in an overcrowded cell (I create mainly instrumental/orchestra/sound track music).

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by bufferoverflow »

klohto wrote: post #25
bufferoverflow wrote: post #11

Check out what Udio can produce. It's so far ahead. https://twitter.com/nasescobar316/status/1777481957774872704 https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1777905772384678149 https://twitter.com/HalimAlrasihi/status/1778118063138673137 https://twitter.com/AngryTomtweets/status/177811764524768059... https://twitter.com/AngryTomtweets/status/177811769943385715...

meh, Suno v3 still has better quality for me personally

Not for me. Suno voices sound distinctly robotic/metallic.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by LouisvilleGeek »

999900000999 wrote: post #19
zaptrem wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The audio is 44.1khz stereo, but all of us use autoencoders so the songs will fit in a transformer's context window, and huge compression will affect quality. We're definitely working on better ones, though!

I'd definitely pay more for higher quality! Good work

Same here. Please consider a higher quality option.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by zaptrem »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #26
999900000999 wrote: post #5

What quality are you producing here ? Suno has this issue too, but everything sounds like it's washed out or something. As if you recorded it from a different room. Still I love this, ultimately I think it'll be a tool musicians use vs something for creating stand alone art

> Still I love this, ultimately I think it'll be a tool musicians use vs something for creating stand alone art Spotify is getting flooded with AI generated music. It is absolutely something people will use to just generate the music they want to hear. Ultimately though, what would be the point of spotify? Anybody will be able to generate 24/7 of songs based on their mood or a few keywords. It will radically change t…

If this were the future that would be kinda depressing. I think the best, truly catchy songs and those that truly connect with people will continue having a significant human element. I see this as similar to the invention of Photoshop except even easier for normal people to start getting into.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by Etheryte »

Recursing wrote: post #9
disqard wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps not exactly "instantly generate a song based on a random blog post or group chat history", but more like "instantly generate a song based on an input prompt sentence" is suno.ai -- you should check it out!

LessWrong used suno.ai , but the typical song quality is not there yet, so they had to generate 3,000-4,000 songs to get 15 good ones

The real endgame in this space would be a tool that first generates a song layout, think Fruityloops, then the corresponding instruments for it, then the vocals, and as the last step allows you to modify each of those layers without nuking the rest. Imagine something similar to what Suno does now, except you had the ability to add in an extra verse without altering the rest of the song, swap out a few passages of the lyrics with the rest staying in tact, swapping out drums for a different drum set etc.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by cchance »

zaptrem wrote: post #13
999900000999 wrote: post #5

What quality are you producing here ? Suno has this issue too, but everything sounds like it's washed out or something. As if you recorded it from a different room. Still I love this, ultimately I think it'll be a tool musicians use vs something for creating stand alone art

The audio is 44.1khz stereo, but all of us use autoencoders so the songs will fit in a transformer's context window, and huge compression will affect quality. We're definitely working on better ones, though!

Feels like this needs something like was done with stable diffusion when they fixed the contrast in images through the use of loras

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by zaptrem »

cchance wrote: post #36

Begs the question given this is diffusion based how much of the "ipadapter/faceid/controlnet" tech can be brought over, what would a audio-faceid or audio-ipadapter look like for something like this.

This is exactly what makes it so exciting for us!

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by cchance »

Question since your now doing diffusion couldn't you also train something akin to a "upscaler" to improve the overall quality of the output as that seems to be a big complaint, it feels like it should be possible to train an upscaling audio model by feeding it lower quality versions of songs and high quality FLAC for it to learn how to improve audio via diffusion upscaling
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