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Phone-free schools seem like an obvious way to fight this, but supposedly modern parents need constant access to their kids and tend to oppose the idea.
You don't get phone-free schools in a post-Uvalde world.
The author had it right in the first paragraph. In the 90s version of this hysteria, Congress passed a law that would have prevented access to education medical information, dirty curse words, and other filth from being published on the internet to protect the children. The federal government fought a case all the way to the Supreme Court to enforce it. If they had won that case, the internet would look very differen…
Now for this issue, there's harm being done to children, and the majority of users in the thread seem to be against government intervention; you say: "well if you don't like it, if you think it's negative, just don't use it, don't let your kids use it".
Kind of a random parallel to draw between the two stories, but it's funny the same logic doesn't seem to apply in both cases. Why wasn't for circular saws the response "if you think they're dangerous, don't use them" or "just keep your kids away from them"?
However with some of these new online platforms, it is essentially a walled garden ran by one company. You are either in or out.
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It's the country's role or more specifically, the role of education to equip citizens with skills that will help them navigate virtual, deceiving and fake internet space.
No, it's not. Where does it say so?
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I’ve never heard puberty described as making kids “a lot less social”, so not sure where you’re getting that from. A source would help your argument.
There's no source I'd believe on this. Kids don't become shy when they turn 13.
Hide in room, grunt when asked questions, moody, "disrespectful to their elders", that kind of thing is all "less social".
Although I can think of one specific context where I would say "shy" for a bit: suddenly developing a new axis of emotional drives (lust) that they have to learn to navigate socially.
I find sadly amusing the argument that kids need their phones in school in case of emergency. If the kid has an emergency, the teacher can call the parents. If the parents are having an emergency, the can call the school.
>If the kid has an emergency, the teacher can call the parents. If the parents are having an emergency, the can call the school. What about if the kid's being bullied? Half the time the teacher will side with the bully, especially if the bully's a more popular kid.
Make sure our food is safe, our water clean and that our cars and bikes are reasonably safe to use. The same goes for products distributed online. The governments around the world has been dragging their feet for decades (probably in no small part to bigtech lobbyist doing a good job) and we are now suffering the consequences.
The European Union has been upping their game recently, with the Digital Markets Act (DMA) and Digital Services Act (DSA), which are regulatory frameworks meant to curb the dominance of large tech companies (gatekeepers) and their malpractices. Instead of outright banning a specific platform or app, they ask companies to adhere to some sensible (from the consumers perspective) standards:
- Provide data access and portability
- Require interoperability to facilitate competition and innovation
- Transparency of algorithms, moderation, advertising etc.
On top of that, big actors have to ensure protection of consumers data (GDPR) and are required not to store more data than necessary. Having these, and more, frameworks in place, makes it possible to crack down on harmful actors from a more principled place. Most of these regulatory components are quite new and barely implemented, but I look forward to seeing them being used more over the next few years.
This author is seriously suggesting that governments ban children's use of social media, and that can't really be done without completely destroying internet anonymity. Any policy that actually achieved this, without being trivial to circumvent, would basically need to replicate the great firewall of China. Doing this in a half-assed way is even worse than not doing anything at all. If you just require ID checks for…
The author had it right in the first paragraph. In the 90s version of this hysteria, Congress passed a law that would have prevented access to education medical information, dirty curse words, and other filth from being published on the internet to protect the children. The federal government fought a case all the way to the Supreme Court to enforce it. If they had won that case, the internet would look very differen…
It's funny .. earlier today there was a front page HN post about the federal government mandating safer circular saws. It seemed like the majority of users in the thread were in favor of the federal government mandating technology changes to prevent harm from being done to the population. Now for this issue, there's harm being done to children, and the majority of users in the thread seem to be against government int…
Imo, I do think social media needs to be reeled in by policy. But I can see why it makes people uncomfortable and why there is a difference with the saw.
I will attempt to at least inject some hope into this discussion. My formative years from ages 15-25 were spent in the 80's and 90's. It was the apex of the mall experience. We saw the mall as a place to get away from our parents, hang out with our buds, run into other classmates and feel some sense of freedom while running amok playing video games in the arcade and chowing down tacos in the food court. Then smartpho…
There is a brand new, massive and beautifully designed mall in The Netherlands called Westfield Mall of the Netherlands.
I went there once to quickly grab something and I got hopelessly lost, even while my phone navigation actually was able to display and navigate the layout of the mall, due to the sheer size I underestimated the navigational challenge my little trip would pose.
The mall really blew me away with its beauty and I am still completely flabbergasted how this can work financially, I perhaps incorrectly assumedthat everybody is like me, ordering everything online.
Although hard to believe, your argument may actually have a lot of thruth in it.