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Re: ElephantSQL Is Shutting Down

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Post by tempnow987 » Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 2:42 AM UTC

ydant wrote: post #119

tempnow987 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SimpleDB disappeared off the marketing pages - but I don't think it got shut down in reality until 2020 maybe? It was easily 5+ years after DynamoDB came along. There was definitely a period where there was little SimpleDB availability publicly but on the backend it kept working. Would love it if someone had more of the detailed history.

SimpleDB still works for my company's AWS account. There's been no announcement of a shutdown that I've seen (and I check occasionally since it's almost entirely disappeared from most of AWS's documentation).

Haha.. That matches what I experienced. It literally disappeared from everywhere but actually just kept on running.

Re: ElephantSQL Is Shutting Down

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Post by nazgulsenpai » Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 4:59 AM UTC

Zopieux wrote: post #107

nazgulsenpai wrote: post #57

The Aiven company they have partnered with's website seems to be down. Bad omen.

Did you even read the link?

Yes, when you click on End of Life Customer Information it recommends moving to Aiven, which was down when I attempted (and still is).

Re: ElephantSQL Is Shutting Down

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Post by killerstorm » Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 1:43 PM UTC

colechristensen wrote: post #96

npteljes wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Isn't the whole point of the cloud is simplicity? Maybe for a few cloud offerings, but not for cloud in general. I think the point of the cloud is that businesses can exchange employees for services, and shift some of the maintenance responsibility. No service is for the people who actually interact with it. It's for the ones that pay for it.

No, for example, I couldn’t manage a database as well as RDS and I wouldn’t want to, I don’t believe I could hire the several people required to replicate what RDS can do as well as RDS can do it. The primary benefit of cloud though is that you don’t have to fight for or wait for capital expenditure budgets to grow, you don’t have to wait for hardware to arrive, you don’t have to negotiate with vendors, you don’t hav…

It seems a bit odd to me that it's hard to manage a database.

It's just a collection of binaries configured with a few pages of text. The configuration should be fairly similar for a typical setup.

So why is it complex?

I mean, is it a fundamental complexity, or is it more like "nobody bothered to write an easy configuration script", or is it learned helplessness?

Re: ElephantSQL Is Shutting Down

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Post by renegade-otter » Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 3:46 PM UTC

killerstorm wrote: post #123

colechristensen wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, for example, I couldn’t manage a database as well as RDS and I wouldn’t want to, I don’t believe I could hire the several people required to replicate what RDS can do as well as RDS can do it. The primary benefit of cloud though is that you don’t have to fight for or wait for capital expenditure budgets to grow, you don’t have to wait for hardware to arrive, you don’t have to negotiate with vendors, you don’t hav…

It seems a bit odd to me that it's hard to manage a database. It's just a collection of binaries configured with a few pages of text. The configuration should be fairly similar for a typical setup. So why is it complex? I mean, is it a fundamental complexity, or is it more like "nobody bothered to write an easy configuration script", or is it learned helplessness?

If the primary fails, will the replica fail over? How do you know?

Are the backups working? Who's checking?

Can anyone delete a directory when tired at 6PM on a Friday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLdRBsuvVKc

Re: ElephantSQL Is Shutting Down

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Post by chikitabanana » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 5:52 PM UTC

zachrip wrote: post #48

brennerm wrote: post #16

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drop the array and quotes in the url to make it prettier :)

Hey zach, any update on your eyesight?