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Re: Find My Device on Android

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Ironically, yesterday my wife couldn't find her phone while we were at a restaurant. Is it at home? Well, let's try this. Google it, go to http://android.com/find Ah, but it only shows devices logged into my account. Well, let's log into hers. Which required 2FA from... her device. Sooo useful.

Android find does work without 2FA. Have tried it before

Re: Find My Device on Android

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I love my Tile(s), but since the AirTag and now Android networks now feature the same capability, I feel their model is dead in the water since they don't own the platform and can't compete on the installed base. They should have sold out (edit: to a mobile platform company, either Google or Apple) while they had the chance.

Agreed. I bought a couple Tiles before AirTags were available. They worked fine, but AirTags are just better in every way.

Same for me, and AirTags don’t push a subscription service down my throat with spammy notifications.

Re: Find My Device on Android

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Bull. That’s why I put the comment in parentheses. They had already switched their laptops to all USB-C many years ago. And iPad Pros. I think the iPad Air and iPad (no name) switched as well. There were also strong rumblings Apple was going to release the USB-C iPhones when the rule was passed. > They tend to oppose standards they aren't already using. You’re kidding right? Then explain USB. Or Thunderbolt. Of every…

So you're saying that's what they wanted to do all along, it just took them almost ten years, and it just happened to neatly coincide with the EU regulation as well? Sure, and they're now allowing game streaming apps and retro emulators on iOS because that's what they always knew was best for the world anyway. What a coincidence (with the DMA, in that case)! > Apple didn’t invent any of them and open them. They were…

> Counterpoint: Magsafe. They had USB-C and went back to something proprietary.

They added MagSafe and still kept USB C charging.

> So you're saying that's what they wanted to do all along, it just took them almost ten years, and it just happened to neatly coincide with the EU regulation as well?

They had already starting to move iPads to USB C

Re: Find My Device on Android

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This is not compatible with AirTags in any way, no? Wouldn't this be a great opportunity for a common standard? Or is there one?

Of course it isn't. The time of interoperable standards in consumer devices is long past. Bluetooth used to support file transfers from device to device on feature- and early smartphones no matter the brand; now there's AirDrop (and maybe sometimes Google Nearby, but only if the humidity and lunar phase is just right). In home audio streaming, there was once DLNA; now there's AirPlay and Google Cast. We have two mutu…

Good call out, it’s incredible we went from local file transfers with Bluetooth to needing an internet connection to transfer to a person sitting next to you just because they have a different OS. If only the EU could pressure the big folks to adopt one wireless transfer protocol like it did USB C recently with Apple.

Re: Find My Device on Android

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bull. That’s why I put the comment in parentheses. They had already switched their laptops to all USB-C many years ago. And iPad Pros. I think the iPad Air and iPad (no name) switched as well. There were also strong rumblings Apple was going to release the USB-C iPhones when the rule was passed. > They tend to oppose standards they aren't already using. You’re kidding right? Then explain USB. Or Thunderbolt. Of every…

So you're saying that's what they wanted to do all along, it just took them almost ten years, and it just happened to neatly coincide with the EU regulation as well? Sure, and they're now allowing game streaming apps and retro emulators on iOS because that's what they always knew was best for the world anyway. What a coincidence (with the DMA, in that case)! > Apple didn’t invent any of them and open them. They were…

They have both MagSafe and USB C now, and MagSafe is much better as a charging adapter anyway. Maybe a USB C MagSafe could be invented?

Re: Find My Device on Android

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it isn't. The time of interoperable standards in consumer devices is long past. Bluetooth used to support file transfers from device to device on feature- and early smartphones no matter the brand; now there's AirDrop (and maybe sometimes Google Nearby, but only if the humidity and lunar phase is just right). In home audio streaming, there was once DLNA; now there's AirPlay and Google Cast. We have two mutu…

Bluetooth file transfer was always nearly useless in my experience, airdrop was somewhat revolutionary in that it actually worked reliably most of the time

For me, reliability has been similar. I will say that it is much faster, though (no wonder – hundreds of Mbit/s over 802.11 vs. 2 Mbit/s over Bluetooth EDR). UX is much better too.

But would it kill them to just support both? I’d take sometimes janky, always slow transfers to Android over having to WhatsApp photos to somebody literally next to me any day.

Re: Find My Device on Android

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Does anyone have a comparison of Airtag vs "Bluetooth tracker tags from Chipolo and Pebblebee"? I imagine Airtag is superior due to non-reliance on Bluetooth? Can Chipolo/Pebblebee tap into the Android network without Bluetooth? And is their tech comparable to Apple's work?

AirTag relies on Bluetooth as well, right? It certainly doesn't have a cellular connection.

Re: Find My Device on Android

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Google posted another blog on how they built the new Find My Device network: https://security.googleblog.com/2024/04/find-my-device-netwo...

As a chronic loser of keys and wallets, I recognize the user need here. However, this is a prime example of a piece of software that can only be trusted when an open-source implementation is provided.

Google and their customers don't have much to gain through a proprietary implementation. If anything, open-sourcing Find My Device Network would allow third party devices to join the network, enhancing its value to Google's customers. Google emphasizes ad nauseum that this system is extremely private and secure, so third party implementations shouldn't be cause for worry.

Governments and various potentially dangerous organizations stand to benefit greatly from a closed implementation for reasons that hardly need explaining.

Google makes a lot of lofty claims about E2EE and privacy considerations in that blog post, I'd just like to see them prove it.

Re: Find My Device on Android

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're saying that's what they wanted to do all along, it just took them almost ten years, and it just happened to neatly coincide with the EU regulation as well? Sure, and they're now allowing game streaming apps and retro emulators on iOS because that's what they always knew was best for the world anyway. What a coincidence (with the DMA, in that case)! > Apple didn’t invent any of them and open them. They were…

> Counterpoint: Magsafe. They had USB-C and went back to something proprietary. They added MagSafe and still kept USB C charging. > So you're saying that's what they wanted to do all along, it just took them almost ten years, and it just happened to neatly coincide with the EU regulation as well? They had already starting to move iPads to USB C

> They had already starting to move iPads to USB C

Which they're explicitly selling as laptop alternatives, at least the Pro line.

People were already connecting all kinds of things (audio interfaces, mice, ethernet adapters etc.) to iPads using the hilariously named lignting-to-USB-host "camera adapter", and all of that is just better over USB-C.

On the iPhone, the vast majority of people only use the port for charging and maybe listening to music; the few additional iPhone sold to people that actually use them with external storage for ProRes cinematography probably pales in comparison to the lost revenue from MFI license fees.

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