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Re: Find My Device on Android

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Ironically, yesterday my wife couldn't find her phone while we were at a restaurant. Is it at home? Well, let's try this. Google it, go to http://android.com/find Ah, but it only shows devices logged into my account. Well, let's log into hers. Which required 2FA from... her device. Sooo useful.

Came to the comments section to point out this ridiculous fact, which has been this way for ages (2018 at least). I'm glad it looks like there is enough momentum for them to think about fixing it now.

Re: Find My Device on Android

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I understand your frustration, and device sharing is obviously a missing useful feature. But I absolutely don't want it to work without 2FA, and if your only 2FA is your phone you have other problems.

A "feature" designed to help you find your lost phone that can not work when your phone is lost is clearly designed poorly. All Google had to do here was copy Apple's solution of having access to that one feature work with only the user name and password.

This is just classic Google product management.

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I love my Tile(s), but since the AirTag and now Android networks now feature the same capability, I feel their model is dead in the water since they don't own the platform and can't compete on the installed base. They should have sold out (edit: to a mobile platform company, either Google or Apple) while they had the chance.

Agreed. I bought a couple Tiles before AirTags were available. They worked fine, but AirTags are just better in every way.

one way they aren't better. You have the tile but can't find your damn phone. Sure there is 'find my' but the little button on the tile that causes the phone to chime was actually pretty handy.

I imagine apple removed it because tags are not paired to phones (like tiles) but instead to the whole account. If you were to push the theoretical button on the airtag your entire house would probably set to chiming (apple tv, homepod, all the phones and ipads on the account all the macs...)

Re: Find My Device on Android

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I’m really surprised this took 3 years after AirTags. Especially since AirTags have been rumored to launch for a very long time before that, and it was a surprise to people that they seemed to be done and just not available (IIRC).

Re: Find My Device on Android

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AirTags are not better in one very important way: they don't prevent theft. They will notify thieves that they are hidden in a valuable item that they are stealing if the thief carries an iPhone. Tile has a feature where you can submit your info and sign some sort of extra contract stating that you won't use your Tile for stalking/illegal activity, and you can actually hide a Tile in your bike frame and it can be use…

If you hide the tag in a way that it can’t be removed (locked to the bike etc) then what option does the thief have? They might actually decide not to steal the item!

certainly removing the battery from the tag or just smashing it with the bolt cutters you are probably already using to steal the bike...

Re: Find My Device on Android

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Can the Pixel phones do the UWB finding like iPhones can where they tell you it’s 10.7 feet to your left?

Or is this more like the older iPhones where it simply tells you if you’re getting closer or further away?

Re: Find My Device on Android

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While technically true, there are non-AirTag third-party devices you can buy that still work with Find My: https://www.macrumors.com/guide/find-my-network-accessory-pr... Both variants you list are supported by Chipolo: https://chipolo.net/en/products/category/chipolo-spot

That's cool! I am looking at this and seeing another issue with AirTag: I actively use the feature on Tile where I can use the Tile on my keychain to find my phone by pushing the button, and I guess AirTags is entirely missing that feature.

something i initially missed as well but like .. if you pushed the button on your airtag it would probably start all your apple devices to beeping. The tag is associated with your account, not your phone like with tile.

Re: Find My Device on Android

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Yeah, this seems like such an incredibly obvious oversight. Like... I know how it goes with fuzzy requirements, but who didn't nail down the acceptance criteria that the user should be able to trigger Find My Phone without 2FA.

So if someone steals my password, they can now find out exactly where I am? And factory reset my device now. Perhaps some combination of no 2FA IF you are a trusted contact that I've specifically added to the account would be safer.

There are many design tradeoffs around this problem, and most of them are reasonable, except the one they chose (can't find your phone unless you have your phone). Especially since the choice of where the 2FA prompt will actually show up is out of your hands.

Re: Find My Device on Android

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The article linked there has a few more details about the implementation: https://www.androidpolice.com/android-15-powered-off-finding... : > To solve this problem, Google is working on a “Powered Off Finding” feature that allows a device to store precomputed Bluetooth beacons in the memory of the Bluetooth controller. This means that even when a device is powered off, it can continue broadcasting Bluetooth beacons t…

There is mostly dead and then there is all dead. A battery which is unable to supply enough power to keep the entire phone operating can likely supply enough for just the Bluetooth chip. Of course, the resulting deep discharge may damage the battery chemistry.

I'm pretty sure phones shut down long before they reach 0%, keeping plenty of charge for the Bluetooth beacon. The battery protection circuit will for sure prevent deep discharging by cutting the power.

Re: Find My Device on Android

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Would anyone have details on how Pixels can be found even when out of battery?

Same question here. I have to assume this would either work by the device sending out a last gasp "I'm about to die" GPS location call home (for finding it when it's far away), or else there's a mostly passive RFID-like thing in the phone that makes it findable by nearby devices (for finding it when it's somewhere in the house/car/office with you).

I read that they use bluetooth beaconing for this. A simple bluetooth beacon like a tile can run for months with minimal power. The phone isn't actually 'dead dead' it's still powering the bluetooth beacon.
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