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Re: Airbnb bookings for the solar eclipse reach astronomical levels

#41
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Layoffs have been limited to tech And in all honesty, good. Tech Bros (myself included) needed to be cut to size. There was a lot of hubris by my peers in the 2010s.

I love the lack of sympathy for tech workers across North America or perhaps even globally, when tech hub salaries still don’t allow tech workers to even have a middle class lifestyle. Very few people I know get paid enough to buy a starter home within 2 or 3 hours of where they work. I get paid more than my non tech peers yet still functionally have less spending power than a 25 year old from 30 years ago, despite b…

> I get paid more than my non tech peers yet still functionally have less spending power than a 25 year old from 30 years ago

This seems like some non-generic case specific to your situation and not representative of the average experience.

The median income in 1994 for over-25-year-olds (men only!) was $25,465 [0], women was less than half of that. Let's go with the figure for men for the sake of discussion.

$25,465 in 1994 is the buying power of $55k today [1]. $55k is the 56th percentile [2], so right where we'd expect it to be.

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1994: median home price $142,200 [3], interest rate 30-year fixed: 8.38% [4]

Principal balance $113,760 @ 8.38%, payment (P&I): $865, or 3.4% of annual income

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2024: median home price $384,500 [5], interest rate 30-year fixed: 7% [6]

Principal balance $307,600 @ 7%, payment (P&I): $2,046, 3.7% of annual income

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Opinion incoming: I think there are 2 things that make 'today' seem more expensive than 'back then': implacable consumerism, and the natural change of places over time (ie, gentrification & co).

w/r/t consumerism, the load on both 'necessary' and discretionary spending has increased big-time - people were not generally paying for broadband, smartphones, gaming consoles, home espresso machines, soundbars, portable speakers, media players, printers/copiers/scanners, I could go on forever. Look around you and count how many things straight-up didn't exist in 1994 (or were reserved for the ultrawealthy or for business). We could do without them today, but it would feel really bad, as if we're not participating in society or making use of its advancement.

w/r/t gentrification, many places today are more desirable than they used to be, and their increase in price is a function of demand rather than of inflation, so it feels like the economics of living got away from people who weren't already bought in. But it's not that "everything" got so much more expensive, it's that, for example, Akron OH used to be more expensive than San Jose (!!) because farming was the center of industry. Now the world changed and what used to be a pretty rural town full of fruit trees is the most expensive metro in the country. It's not because "houses got more expensive" per se, it's that the world changed.

[0] https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d96/d96t376.asp

[1] https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=25%2C465&year1...

[2] https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/

[3] https://www.huduser.gov/periodicals/ushmc/winter2001/histdat...

[4] https://www.mpamag.com/us/mortgage-industry/guides/historica....

[5] https://www.bankrate.com/real-estate/existing-home-sales/

[6] https://www.bankrate.com/mortgages/mortgage-interest-rates-f...

Re: Airbnb bookings for the solar eclipse reach astronomical levels

#42
post #3

There is so much excess money floating in the economy at the moment. Its insane. People emboldened by market and housing gains have to been spending ridiculous amounts of money like there is no tomorrow. Layoffs have been limited to tech.

> Layoffs have been limited to tech And in all honesty, good. Tech Bros (myself included) needed to be cut to size. There was a lot of hubris by my peers in the 2010s.

Most of the "tech bros" and "SaaS sisters" I know came from working class means. They might make six figures, but still can't afford a home.

Re: Airbnb bookings for the solar eclipse reach astronomical levels

#44

As of this moment 100% of comments have to do with “I guess other people have a lot of money”. Very weird thing to be concerned about. Personally I didn’t care about the eclipse until recently. Then I realized then when the next one happens in North America, my son will be in his 20s and I will be in my 60s. I got the idea that it will be cool to (G-d willing) see that one together and remember how we saw this one to…

> As of this moment 100% of comments have to do with “I guess other people have a lot of money”. Very weird thing to be concerned about.

I like a total eclipse as much as the other guy but come on, money IS a struggle for many people, don't act like you don't know.

Re: Airbnb bookings for the solar eclipse reach astronomical levels

#45
post #8
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love the lack of sympathy for tech workers across North America or perhaps even globally, when tech hub salaries still don’t allow tech workers to even have a middle class lifestyle. Very few people I know get paid enough to buy a starter home within 2 or 3 hours of where they work. I get paid more than my non tech peers yet still functionally have less spending power than a 25 year old from 30 years ago, despite b…

US middle class cleaved into two groups post pandemic: homeowners at 2% interest rates and everyone else. Its the new middleclass have and have nots. You have it pretty good right now if you are a homeowner.

Yup. Homeowners in the first world need to start to feel some serious tax pain, which should go directly to building as much housing as fast as humanly possible. And screw crying about home devaluation. You making a handy profit when you switch houses in a decade does not trump the basic need for people to have housing.

Re: Airbnb bookings for the solar eclipse reach astronomical levels

#46
post #3

There is so much excess money floating in the economy at the moment. Its insane. People emboldened by market and housing gains have to been spending ridiculous amounts of money like there is no tomorrow. Layoffs have been limited to tech.

Controlling inflation will hopefully be the main discussion around the next election, I am tired of watching the political theater around small side-issues and then paying $8 for milk and $6 for peanut butter. Why is our labor becoming worth less in real goods? Why is life expectancy decreasing? Can politicians address issues that affect every single person every day? I make good money in tech but it still feels like…

Life expectancy decreasing seems to have an obvious answer. We just had a pandemic.

Re: Airbnb bookings for the solar eclipse reach astronomical levels

#47
post #3

There is so much excess money floating in the economy at the moment. Its insane. People emboldened by market and housing gains have to been spending ridiculous amounts of money like there is no tomorrow. Layoffs have been limited to tech.

People refinanced their mortgages at 2.5% in 2022. Suddenly their monthly payments fell significantly and they have more money to spend every month

Re: Airbnb bookings for the solar eclipse reach astronomical levels

#48
Really disappointing takes in here.

Considering it's a literal once-in-a-lifetime experience for many people, and the scientific nature of said experience, I assumed people would be a little more open-minded.

Some things in life are worth paying for. Seeing an eclipse in totality is one of (many) of them

Re: Airbnb bookings for the solar eclipse reach astronomical levels

#49
post #3

There is so much excess money floating in the economy at the moment. Its insane. People emboldened by market and housing gains have to been spending ridiculous amounts of money like there is no tomorrow. Layoffs have been limited to tech.

Controlling inflation will hopefully be the main discussion around the next election, I am tired of watching the political theater around small side-issues and then paying $8 for milk and $6 for peanut butter. Why is our labor becoming worth less in real goods? Why is life expectancy decreasing? Can politicians address issues that affect every single person every day? I make good money in tech but it still feels like…

Given the amount of polarization, it seems like very few voters will switch sides based on economics. Maybe it will affect turnout, though?

US life expectancy is going up again. [1] The pandemic is over and drug overdoses leveled off.

[1] https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/21/cdc-us-life-expecta...

Re: Airbnb bookings for the solar eclipse reach astronomical levels

#50
post #3

There is so much excess money floating in the economy at the moment. Its insane. People emboldened by market and housing gains have to been spending ridiculous amounts of money like there is no tomorrow. Layoffs have been limited to tech.

Controlling inflation will hopefully be the main discussion around the next election, I am tired of watching the political theater around small side-issues and then paying $8 for milk and $6 for peanut butter. Why is our labor becoming worth less in real goods? Why is life expectancy decreasing? Can politicians address issues that affect every single person every day? I make good money in tech but it still feels like…

> Why is our labor becoming worth less in real goods?

I don't think this has been true in general for a while, although it was true 2021-2022[0].

It may of course be true for you, I don't know your income!

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-i...

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