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Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Post by csours »

consumer451 wrote: post #24

Previously discussed and flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39963776 Comment which I Favorited: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39964702 > We all know the Baader–Meinhof / frequency illusion, which is where something becomes interesting to an observer so suddenly they notice things that were always there, but because they suddenly notice it seems there has been some massive increase in frequency. > Wh…

It's kind of amazing that, in reality, everything is always almost-failing (love the efficiency BAYBYYY).

If we gold-plated every solution we would run out of gold; or have fewer solutions.

Of course, in reality, there are a LOT of things happening, and we hear about the few notable failures, not the many many many almost-failures.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Post by s_dev »

filleduchaos wrote: post #48
s_dev wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This incident isn't related to Boeing .. at all ... but when Airbus do it (which you assure it happens more frequently) it's related to whom exactly, and why did Airbus fix it if it wasn't related to them (modified the door latch)?

Worth noting that only a few weeks ago an Airbus A330 had a very similar engine-panel-coming-off issue, which I'm 99.9% sure you hadn't heard about at all until I pointed it out to you - unlike this incident, which will have hundreds of articles and blog posts written about it. I'd like everyone here to consider just how much they are letting [social] media do their thinking for them. (The incident I'm referring to:…

The user I'm replying to is making contradictory statements -- I'm asking questions to try and illustrate the contradiction.

If this issue is unrelated to Boeing it's also unrelated to Airbus.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Post by ffgjgf1 »

kalleboo wrote: post #42
ffgjgf1 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of Airbus planes in the US. Nobody is directly prohibiting competition it’s just that no private company could ever catch up without massive a amount of government funding.

Boeing has absolutely been prohibiting competition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSeries_dumping_petition_by_Bo...

Yeah, but it was one company subsidized by the government using its influence to bring down another company which was even more heavily subsidized by their respective government (not that it would have been possible to break into this market any other way).

Free competition wasn’t really an option either way.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

#54

Post by carrolldunham »

bustling-noose wrote: post #4

Another Boeing incidence. There should be a statistics page somewhere where incidences are marked on some graph or chart showing engine manufacturers airplane manufacturers airlines etc. if any exist would like to see such a page.

Incident, incidents.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Post by KingOfCoders »

chinathrow wrote: post #19
madaxe_again wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn’t relevant - the final assembler is responsible for QC. If I build something, and I buy something from a third party to be part of it, I make sure that A) it isn’t defective B) it integrates robustly You can wave your hand at the supply chain all you want, but if you’re sticking your name on it, it’s yours.

The plane was built in 2015. This is not about building the engine doors, it's about who did not close them properly during last maintenance.

My laptop breaks down after 5 years.

Is it about the manufacturer because they made a bad design that broke after some years, or me doing properly maintenance?

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Post by bustling-noose »

akie wrote: post #11
bustling-noose wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope this is sarcasm cause in no way Boeing is ‘poor’. There is a duopoly of aircraft and doesn’t matter what reputation Boeing gets, the orders will keep coming in. If your airline cancels an order 5 others are waiting to take your spot.

I would be surprised if Boeing isn't seeing or going to see reduced orders because of this endless barrage of bad news.

https://simpleflying.com/ryanair-wants-boeing-737-max-orders...

Youll be surprised to know then someone else is willing to take the order if it's cancelled.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Post by bustling-noose »

ffgjgf1 wrote: post #27
akie wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be surprised if Boeing isn't seeing or going to see reduced orders because of this endless barrage of bad news.

Airbus has a 5-10 year backlog for many of its models so it’s not like airlines have a choice.

Exactly. if I was an airline whos entire business depends on aircrafts then in order to satisfy my demands I cant just wait 10 years before something is available. Maybe instead of 50/50 it's become 65/35 now but that 35 is still years of jets delivery for Boeing.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Post by madaxe_again »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #55
chinathrow wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The plane was built in 2015. This is not about building the engine doors, it's about who did not close them properly during last maintenance.

My laptop breaks down after 5 years. Is it about the manufacturer because they made a bad design that broke after some years, or me doing properly maintenance?

I’m afraid you’ll need to contact shenzen resistor corporation #6552 as that’s the component that’s failed and they’re the responsible party.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Post by CapcomGo »

s_dev wrote: post #52
filleduchaos wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worth noting that only a few weeks ago an Airbus A330 had a very similar engine-panel-coming-off issue, which I'm 99.9% sure you hadn't heard about at all until I pointed it out to you - unlike this incident, which will have hundreds of articles and blog posts written about it. I'd like everyone here to consider just how much they are letting [social] media do their thinking for them. (The incident I'm referring to:…

The user I'm replying to is making contradictory statements -- I'm asking questions to try and illustrate the contradiction. If this issue is unrelated to Boeing it's also unrelated to Airbus.

It's clearly not a manufacturer issue at all. This is just part of the normal incidents that happen in air travel that the public is normally not aware of.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Post by CapcomGo »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #10
bustling-noose wrote: post #4

Another Boeing incidence. There should be a statistics page somewhere where incidences are marked on some graph or chart showing engine manufacturers airplane manufacturers airlines etc. if any exist would like to see such a page.

Do you know if the parts the flew away, are build by the engine manufacturer, are build by the engine manufacturer and attached/assembled by Boeing or are those coverings build and attached by Boeing (because every attachment for every plane is different, even for the same engine?)

Ah yes if a Toyota crashes the first thing we do is look at Toyota.
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