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Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoever did not latch the door properly after doing maintenance checks. Which is either a mechanic at the airline itself or someone at a maintenance hub that is contracted by the airline. Not the job of the manufacturer whatsoever.

So why did Airbus modify the door latch?

They were required to by an airworthiness directive. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/06/29/2017-13...

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoever did not latch the door properly after doing maintenance checks. Which is either a mechanic at the airline itself or someone at a maintenance hub that is contracted by the airline. Not the job of the manufacturer whatsoever.

So why did Airbus modify the door latch?

To make the plane more user friendly?

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

#33

Maybe they should do some more stock buybacks and then ask the fed for a bailout. Boeing are a welfare company - they would not exist without their close relationship with the government and the taxpayer dollars that are funnelled to them. Competent competition would eat them alive, if competition were permissible in the land of the free (for some, not for you) markets.

There are plenty of Airbus planes in the US. Nobody is directly prohibiting competition it’s just that no private company could ever catch up without massive a amount of government funding.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

#34
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This incident isn't related to Boeing .. at all ... but when Airbus do it (which you assure it happens more frequently) it's related to whom exactly, and why did Airbus fix it if it wasn't related to them (modified the door latch)?

Whoever did not latch the door properly after doing maintenance checks. Which is either a mechanic at the airline itself or someone at a maintenance hub that is contracted by the airline. Not the job of the manufacturer whatsoever.

The point s_dev is trying to make is that the designer can (and should) design things so that the mechanic "doesn't have to think". Seems like Airbus has evolved their design accordingly.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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post #26

As much as I would like to dogpile on Boeing right now, that particular airplane has been in operation since 2015. This would likely be Southwest maintenance issues rather than Boeing.

I think that by now most of the people have started putting the blame on the US aviation and air-transportation industry as a whole, it's not just Boeing anymore. That includes the FTC, the carriers, yes, Boeing, and a ton of other sub-contractors.

It's systemic by this point, and I feel that it's not only the fault of those "pesky MBAs running Boeing" anymore.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

#36

Another Boeing incidence. There should be a statistics page somewhere where incidences are marked on some graph or chart showing engine manufacturers airplane manufacturers airlines etc. if any exist would like to see such a page.

This is not related to Boeing at all. Engine covers not being closed properly is a relatively common (still rare in the grand scheme of things) incident and happens a lot more frequently on Airbus models to the point that Airbus modified the door latch.

It's interesting in the sense that it demonstrates a shift in the Zeitgeist. It's probably true that this isn't Boeing's fault, but the media have taken to reporting every problem encountered with a Boeing plane which reinforces the narrative that Boeing make poor aircraft, which ultimately is a bigger problem for Boeing than them actually making poor aircraft.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

#38
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoever did not latch the door properly after doing maintenance checks. Which is either a mechanic at the airline itself or someone at a maintenance hub that is contracted by the airline. Not the job of the manufacturer whatsoever.

The point s_dev is trying to make is that the designer can (and should) design things so that the mechanic "doesn't have to think". Seems like Airbus has evolved their design accordingly.

The solution is actually quite elegant: a long tagged key required to open the door which remains in the lock until it's closed again. https://safetyfirst.airbus.com/preventing-fan-cowl-door-loss...

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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post #35
post #26

As much as I would like to dogpile on Boeing right now, that particular airplane has been in operation since 2015. This would likely be Southwest maintenance issues rather than Boeing.

I think that by now most of the people have started putting the blame on the US aviation and air-transportation industry as a whole, it's not just Boeing anymore. That includes the FTC, the carriers, yes, Boeing, and a ton of other sub-contractors. It's systemic by this point, and I feel that it's not only the fault of those "pesky MBAs running Boeing" anymore.

They set the culture from the top.

Re: Southwest Boeing 737-800 flight from Denver loses engine cover

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post #35
post #26

As much as I would like to dogpile on Boeing right now, that particular airplane has been in operation since 2015. This would likely be Southwest maintenance issues rather than Boeing.

I think that by now most of the people have started putting the blame on the US aviation and air-transportation industry as a whole, it's not just Boeing anymore. That includes the FTC, the carriers, yes, Boeing, and a ton of other sub-contractors. It's systemic by this point, and I feel that it's not only the fault of those "pesky MBAs running Boeing" anymore.

It's the pesky MBAs running Washington?
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