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Workman Layout for Vim

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Re: Workman Layout for Vim

#2
This makes no sense.

It is _meaning_ that bounds certain Vim commands to certain keys, not the position of the keys on your keyboard. Moving the keys around doesn't change their meaning—"w" is still "w", for "word"—so making all those mappings is utterly pointless.

Unless one uses a layout different from that of their physical keyboard, in which case WTF?

Re: Workman Layout for Vim

#3

This makes no sense. It is _meaning_ that bounds certain Vim commands to certain keys, not the position of the keys on your keyboard. Moving the keys around doesn't change their meaning—"w" is still "w", for "word"—so making all those mappings is utterly pointless. Unless one uses a layout different from that of their physical keyboard, in which case WTF?

I believe the issue boils down to qwerty-hjkl become workman-yneo. hjkl don't have _meaning_, it's all about their specific location on the keyboard. So if yneo is now left/down/up/right, you now need to do something else for yank/next/end/open.

Re: Workman Layout for Vim

#4

This makes no sense. It is _meaning_ that bounds certain Vim commands to certain keys, not the position of the keys on your keyboard. Moving the keys around doesn't change their meaning—"w" is still "w", for "word"—so making all those mappings is utterly pointless. Unless one uses a layout different from that of their physical keyboard, in which case WTF?

I believe the issue boils down to qwerty-hjkl become workman-yneo. hjkl don't have _meaning_, it's all about their specific location on the keyboard. So if yneo is now left/down/up/right, you now need to do something else for yank/next/end/open.

^H, ^J, ^K, and ^L _had_ meaning and that meaning is why hjkl do what they do. Their location on the homerow of a number of layouts is an accident. And they are not very useful in practice anyway.

"Remapping" the whole keyboard around them is IMO a silly idea.

Re: Workman Layout for Vim

#5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the issue boils down to qwerty-hjkl become workman-yneo. hjkl don't have _meaning_, it's all about their specific location on the keyboard. So if yneo is now left/down/up/right, you now need to do something else for yank/next/end/open.

^H, ^J, ^K, and ^L _had_ meaning and that meaning is why hjkl do what they do. Their location on the homerow of a number of layouts is an accident. And they are not very useful in practice anyway. "Remapping" the whole keyboard around them is IMO a silly idea.

How do vertical tab and form feed relate to "up" and "right"?

Re: Workman Layout for Vim

#6
This[1] links to http://www. workmanlayout.com/blog/ which is a 404. (space inserted to avoid auto link generation).

Going to the main page of that site reveals some articles from the past few years, but also has online casino and crypto links disguised as posts. E.g.:

> is your premier source for crypto insights, covering the latest news, trends, and guides on blockchain, cryptocurrencies, and cybersecurity. Whether a beginner or a pro, you can find valuable information and tips to stay ahead in the Web 3.0 era.

Weird and shady.

I keep seeing all these people fancy keyboards and interesting looking layouts except that it takes them six to 10 attempts to type anything correctly. Don't really get the point, but having got curious about this "workman" layout and regretted trying to find out.

I was thinking of a pane layout manager ... Anything like that around?

[1]: https://axiomatic.neophilus.net/workman-layout-for-vim/

Re: Workman Layout for Vim

#7
post #6

This[1] links to http://www . workmanlayout.com/blog/ which is a 404. (space inserted to avoid auto link generation). Going to the main page of that site reveals some articles from the past few years, but also has online casino and crypto links disguised as posts. E.g.: > is your premier source for crypto insights, covering the latest news, trends, and guides on blockchain, cryptocurrencies, and cybersecurity. Whethe…

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Re: Workman Layout for Vim

#8
post #6

This[1] links to http://www . workmanlayout.com/blog/ which is a 404. (space inserted to avoid auto link generation). Going to the main page of that site reveals some articles from the past few years, but also has online casino and crypto links disguised as posts. E.g.: > is your premier source for crypto insights, covering the latest news, trends, and guides on blockchain, cryptocurrencies, and cybersecurity. Whethe…

Your first link is broken

Re: Workman Layout for Vim

#9
post #6

This[1] links to http://www . workmanlayout.com/blog/ which is a 404. (space inserted to avoid auto link generation). Going to the main page of that site reveals some articles from the past few years, but also has online casino and crypto links disguised as posts. E.g.: > is your premier source for crypto insights, covering the latest news, trends, and guides on blockchain, cryptocurrencies, and cybersecurity. Whethe…

Cyber criminals use wordpress vulns to inject spam into old blogs. That doesn't make it less weird and shady, but might explain why it's weird and shady.

Re: Workman Layout for Vim

#10
This is a problem with alternative layouts - you have to relearn or remap all the shortcuts for different apps as well as learn the new alphabet locations.

Shortcuts sometimes use mnemonics, eg p to print or whatever, but they're often just in particular locations, like V for paste for example - it's just next to 'C' for cut - so if those two keys are separated on your new layout, it's confusing, and in any case, does it matter that it's 'C' for cut - just using whatever keys are in those two locations is so ingrained in muscle memory that they should be remapped.

The other issue is that most of these alternate layouts are optimized for writing prose, and sometimes make other things, code, for example, more difficult.

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