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Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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post #84

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Things like torrenting will get you quickly shut down by the provider. My friend found this out while considering setting up their own seedbox.

Sounds like your friend was VPNing to the wrong jurisdiction. PulsedMedia (Finland), IHostArt (Romania) and many other seedbox server providers exist and will not shut you down.

Highly recommend Whatbox.ca - i run a “pirate netflix” for all my family and friends off one cheap VPS. It also provides me with a more censorship-resistant VPN than most usual VPN providers. Many VPN services were blocked in GCC countries but not my private whatbox server VPN.

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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The problem is in line 1, not line 3. There would be some serious issues with 3 if 1 was a fake threat meant to push you into 3, but it's not. The vast majority go along with 1.

I see it as rape with a implied third party threat of violence instead of a first party one. You may feel differently if you feel that men's bodies belong to the state to be used in wars.

The violence was already there. It's not a threat to say and honestly mean "otherwise nothing changes (99% of people pick this option)".

The consent issues are all in the forced service itself, and apply to every man equally, whether or not they take the gay proof exemption.

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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post #70

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That way the ISP still sees what you're doing though.

Only the DNS lookups. Not the content of what you’re viewing over https. Everything after domain name is encrypted

SNI header from TLS handshake is unencrypted so service providers (and Government's packet inspection engines) absolutely do see what website you are visiting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication

Server Name Indication payload is not encrypted, thus the hostname of the server the client tries to connect to is visible to a passive eavesdropper. This protocol weakness was exploited by security software for network filtering and monitoring[4][5][6] and governments to implement censorship.[7] Presently, there are multiple technologies attempting to hide Server Name Indication.

Also some countries may mandate users to install and trust government's CA certificate which is then used to MITM HTTPS traffic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_man-in-the-middle_a...

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

#185
post #169

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Configuring 1.1.1.1 is a great option for people outside the US whose countries are unable to pressure Cloudflare for information. A better option for those of us in the US is to run our own DNS resolvers. My DNS resolver runs on a little PFSense box that also has DNS blocking and a ton of other features.

Let's be realistic. Porn, the subject of this discussion, is not illegal in the US; this is about age verification laws that apply to the website operators, who then self-block users from particular states. No one is going after Cloudflare for this information as there is no crime committed by the user. Given Cloudflare's logging policy ( https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns... ) and data disc…

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Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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Anecdote: I stayed in the Airbnb of an (obviously gay) couple in the South-Eastern very conservative Turkish city of Mersin many years ago. The absolute joy they had when I showed them how to set up 1.1.1.1 on their Android TV, phones, and laptops… so they could watch unrestricted gay porn in their heavily censored and state-controlled slice of the World Wide Web… I still get a virtual greeting card from them once in…

> The absolute joy they had when I showed them how to set up 1.1.1.1 on their Android TV, phones, and laptops… so they could watch unrestricted gay porn in their heavily censored and state-controlled slice of the World Wide Web…

I'd be very careful giving security advice to someone in that situation - in fact, I probably wouldn't do it, even though I am an experienced professional who knows more than most people in IT.

Think about accuracy, which is correctness, completeness, and consistency:

Giving security advice to buddies trying to watch out-of-country sporting events has a much different accuracy requirement than advice for someone whose liberty, life, or pursuit of happiness (assets) are at stake. If your advice is incorrect, incomplete (you don't know or account for the entire picture), or inconsistent (different pieces of your advice don't line up) - these people don't miss their favorite team, the might go to jail, get tortured, lose their children, their careers, etc.

When I give professional security advice, I spend a lot of time on it. I make sure I know the whole picture, my advice is correct - rechecking old understandings, testing and retesting, etc. - and it's consistent. These people are trusting me. And then if I'm not sure of those things, I find someone who knows better than I do. I don't have time to do that at the Airbnb.

In this case, it seems to risk incorrectness and incompleteness: It may be incorrect because setting up DNS lookups so there are no leaks is tricky - I'm not even sure how to do it reliably. For example, some apps and OSes have DNS servers hardcoded; IME some just bypass your configuration (maybe the dev just didn't care to integrate with the system DNS settings); IIRC some have hardcoded fallbacks; sometimes the client overrides your config with the local gateway or the servers it supplies; also, DNS has a complex federated infrastructure. (My first stab at secure DNS is a secure VPN that doesn't leak - that seems much easier).

It's incomplete: the authorities might not see the DNS lookups but they will clearly see the IPs that the user accesses, including those of the porn websites.

These people are trusting you and you told them they could safely look at porn. Yikes, I would not want that responsibility without some serious work.

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

#187
post #50

Tailscale exit node on a cheap vps and you're golden. Well as long as the stuff you're doing is "legal". It's still traceable back to you.

How well do subpoenas work across international borders, especially when the charge isn't illegal in the recieving jurisdiction? (asking for a friend, obvs)

Nobody cares if it’s not terrorism or national security

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

#188

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The obligation itself already lacks consent so anything you feel forced to do to get out of it is similarly non-consentual.

If by "similarly" you mean "equally bad at most", then I can agree with that. But I think most people would rate non-consensual sex as significantly worse than a non-consensual day job. So if you say the sex on camera is not consensual, you're implying a very different kind of consent violation than is actually happening.

> most people would rate non-consensual sex as significantly worse than a non-consensual day job

The argument here is non-consensual. No work is totally consensual, since you need to survive. You accept a life-long inconvenience in exchange for a beautiful house. Can we make sex consensual in exchange for a large enough inconvenience? The response lies in an experiment: Propose a menial job to prostitutes. Even at the same rate, most prefer their occupation. Therefore it’s consensual.

A funny quirk about non-consensual work is that the 1930’s ILO convention against slavery and forced work… excluded able-bodied men in age of working (article 11). Which kind of defeats the purpose of the convention.

This article was only abolished in 1957.

But compulsory military service still exists in probably half of the world countries.

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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post #158

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Have you ever made your own porn? Very liberating.

Have you ever tried abstaining? You'll find you're not as liberated as you thought.

How very Christian. We're all "slaves to sin" and "idols" where "sin and idols" just means "anything people like doing", because it's hard to stop doing something you like.

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

#190
post #57

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That must be a US thing, over here in Europe, most people just use hotspots (or cellular data) instead. That was a thing even back in my day, when LTE availability was not a given and cellular packages were much less generous.

Tethering is idiot expensive in USA. Every provider will DPI and block it or throttle it. It's awful.

Huh. It's interesting that tethering restrictions are implemented via your device, i.e. the device you paid for working against you. Most Android custom ROMs bypass this, and tethering is always enabled regardless of whether your telecom wants you or not.
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