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The window for great-grandmothers is closing

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Re: The window for great-grandmothers is closing

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Post by frankbreetz »

britzkopf wrote: post #415
latexr wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The whole point is that this happens all the time What happens all the time is an adult raising their our children and then later on raising their grandchildren. But what you’re suggesting is having old people with zero experience raising anyone taking care of their grandchildren. I don’t quite see that as a clearcut case of success.

Zero? Doesn't seem a very good faith assessment of the concept proposed.

yeah, obviously they were adults when their biological kids were raised and even if the weren't the primary, they surely would be hands on most of the time.

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Post by seec »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #324
tuatoru wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The (lack of) social prestige for pregnancy and motherhood among UMC women is a bigger factor. Women have been indoctrinated to place career first and only. Try saying "soccer mom" with an admiring tone instead of a sneer if you want to understand this.

Is it possible women could want financial independence without being indoctrinated? Or are they incapable of desiring power over their own lives, perhaps unlike men?

Independence is a complete illusion, especially in our modern globalized world. Someone has to pay you the money, so even if you go as a solo entrepreneur selling real stuff that you made yourself, you largely depend on your customers at least.

The reality is that it is extremely stressful and for most people with no guarantee of how it will work out overtime.

And the fact is that it is much better to have one person focused on getting the ressource while the other runs the household, "making" other humans in the process.

It could be the man at home, but most woman don't actually want that even if they may say so to win an argument; and there is the added problem that only woman can make other human being.

Then you have people complaining that our society doesn't make babies anymore, well maybe if we didn't push the bullshit of independence on woman we wouldn't have this problem...

Re: The window for great-grandmothers is closing

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Post by DHPersonal »

Brusco_RF wrote: post #434
DHPersonal wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sweden doesn't have exactly the things that was mentioned, but it is far more supportive of parents than the United States: https://www.norden.org/en/info-norden/parental-benefit-swede...

And how does their fertility rate compare? Actually I'll tell you, Sweden's is 1.66, the USA is 1.64. South Sudan, the poorest country in the world, is 4.54

South Sudan's infant mortality rate is also significantly higher than either Sweden or the US.

Re: The window for great-grandmothers is closing

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Post by smoyer »

tropdrop wrote: post #280
smoyer wrote: post #232

I attended my great-great-grandmother's 100th birthday party when I was 8 or 9.

Came here to say something similar: I didn't realize how rare this was until this thread, but as I kid I knew not only four of my great-grandparents, but even a great-great-grandmother. She died at 96 years old, but I was old enough to hang out with her a few times, and remember her. My great-grandfather is still alive and turned 100 last year. Since I'm already much older than any of my progenitors when they had the…

Agreed ... At this point I'm hoping to meet one of my grandchildren but my kids don't seem to be in any hurry.
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