Does this mean Python support in version 1 is more or less likely?
We're sticking with our goal on Kickstarter - if we hit 300k we'll definitely do it. There's a decent chance we will either way though.
Light Table is in YCS12
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Please consider a BSD-style license. There are lots of people that can't or won't use GPL-licensed projects. Alternatively, will you be releasing under a commercial license?
There are people who can't or won't use GPL code in their own projects our use GPL libraries, but I've never heard of anyone not using a program (rather than the code) because of a GPL license. For a project like this, the GPL makes the most sense: an IDE needs people who use it and people who contribute to the core project much more than it needs people who use its code in proprietary projects of their own.
As soon as IDE provides extensibility one starts having problems with GPL and it's viral nature with linking.
GPL is forcing IDE into a "sandbox" where the whole distro must be GPL-compatible at the point of distribution. The workaround is often with the expense of user experience where one has to separately install extensions just because of licesnsing.
Re: Light Table is in YCS12
#83We normally would wait to announce this until it was time to drum up the press machine, but it was more important to us that you guys know what's going on. If anyone has specific questions/concerns, I'll be lurking.
None of these reasons became invalid when you joined YC, so the pledge still stands.
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#86I dont see how light table is different than an good ide for java. - docs everywhere When i hover over a symbol, method or class i get the documentation right in my IDE - instant feedback Ok this is new but can only be done for simple calculations - table as a unit of work Saying that "we can de better than files" is true. In fact in my IDE i just dragndrop methods around, navigate the class hierarchy, etc. Its just…
For a dynamic language, where a REPL will no doubt be part of your workflow, an IDE that aims to merge the process of editing and interacting is probably quite valuable. Like emacs with slime but less daunting to the unfamiliar.
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#87I haven't followed the discussions much before, but will this support Android development sometime in the future?
Why exactly would you want support for Android development? As far as I understand, LightTable's target are languages which doesn't already have the tools they're offering (dynamic scripting languages like JS, python etc). The existing Android dev tools already have all the features that LightTable is bringing to them. We already have those in Eclipse, we don't need LightTable. Only the dynamic languages with poor to…
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
>There are a lot of ways to read the situation, but my favorite is that Light Table makes sense purely as a strategic acquisition for YC; there are enough YC companies using the languages Light Table targets that, should it yield magical productivity gains, the knock-on effects from being able to get their developers early access and input would be enormous. If they wind up changing the future of software development…
While I sort-of agree with your point, I think you're being unnecessarily hostile here.
And I think the "ViaWeb/Lisp -> super programming capabilities over mere mortals -> Yahoo millions" thing that started the whole cult worship is both wrong and flawed (e.g statistically insignificant to prove anything).
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#89I am personally much more impressed with Code bubbles which as been around for 2 years and which I shamefully missed at a time of its appearance. Of course it's less talked about, as there is certainly less hype about Java than Clojure and Javascript, but a statically typed language benefits a lot more from this concept, rather than dynamically typed.
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#90While being a part of YC doesn't affect our plans or change our use of Kickstarter as a means of accelerating the release of Light Table, many pledged with the explicit purpose of making sure that it had a chance. With YC that chance is now safe and we wanted to let our supporters know there will be no hard feelings if this changes your desire to pledge. Light Table uses Kickstarter to demonstrate market demand, YC r…
>There are a lot of ways to read the situation, but my favorite is that Light Table makes sense purely as a strategic acquisition for YC; there are enough YC companies using the languages Light Table targets that, should it yield magical productivity gains, the knock-on effects from being able to get their developers early access and input would be enormous. If they wind up changing the future of software development…
Maybe you didn't, but a lot of people saw the Light Table demo and thought, "If that thing works right it looks like it might cut my workload in half." This would be the reason (you may have heard) they've raised a few hundred thousand in pre-orders in addition to funding from the most prominent startup accelerator in tech.
Okay, so you don't buy the hype. Bully for you. But "a really lame conspiracy theory"? Presumably, not only would Viaweb have been as dominant were it written in C, but 37signals would have been more successful sticking with PHP instead of wasting time writing Rails, and if all your Emacs users switched to using Notepad, it wouldn't cost the company any money.
That sounds pretty realistic.