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Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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It's because the Windows 11 UI was designed by people who've never used anything other that an Apple Mac. Yes, Microsoft hires employees with zero Windows experience to design their operating system. That's why the Windows 11 taskbar has the icons centred -- because Apple OSX does too. That's why there's no way to drag the taskbar around -- because Apple OSX doesn't allow this either. Etc...

Apple and Microsoft are competing on who can make the worst UX in the desktop arena. Window management is so bad in osx and I refuse to pay for add-ons to make things slightly better when Linux and the small galaxy of window managers have been doing it so well, and for free, for literally decades.

Are you always using full screen apps? If you are, yeah it’s bad. If you got a big enough screen, know the shortcuts, and you are not using full screen apps, macOS is untouchable.

Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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Maybe I'm too old, but since when is simply using another software as opposed to built-ins considered modding? Most of these seem like replacements to me. If doing that little is now considered "modding" a desktop OS, we've fucked up somewhere. Even phone OSes like Android let you download replacements of built-ins (such as another launcher, file manager, photo app) right from their app store.

> Maybe I'm too old, but since when is simply using another software as opposed to built-ins considered modding? Most of these seem like replacements to me. ExplorerPatcher /is/ modding. It's not killing explorer.exe and launching another UI that is independent from the os like, say, what blackbox for windows or litestep did. It's patching running executables in memory in a way that could break whenever any data stru…

> It's very bad publicity for MS who might get blamed by some: "my computer isn't starting anymore after a windows update, I hate MS" so it makes perfect sense to prevent this program from launching in a new major update.

They deserve to be blamed but for something else: 1) create a problem, 2) refuse to solve it, 3) prevent third-party solutions. People used to ungroup tasks and have the taskbar to the side etc. for two decades. At least the ungrouping thing is coming back but Microsoft stubbornness about blocking the remaining features makes me thing something else might be at play other than someone's hurt ego or some designers aesthetic vision.

Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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Contrast this with the "old" Apple in 2005/6, I could write a game, put it up for download as a DMG file You still can? The binary has to be notarized, but Apple doesn’t take a cut, you can run your own store and sell a game. For example, hooking into the kernel is now very difficult - apps like Little Snitch running on Sonoma have a much harder job. For most people that’s a good thing. I had many family members that…

> You still can? The binary has to be notarized, but Apple doesn’t take a cut, you can run your own store and sell a game. Yes, however the binary did not have to be signed back then - and I didn't need to pay apple for the privilege of writing software for their OS. > Also, about little snitch specifically, obdev now sells are more user-friendly version in the App Store that uses the new user space filtering API. An…

I’ll push back on that. Notarization is a great feature. The fact computing didn’t include it was what led to decades of malware stealing billions from people.

Properly implemented, everyone could freely and easily notarize every single piece of code they need to run. Total freedom, with notarized code to give the leeway to the OS maker to remove code when it’s malware.

The fact of the matter is that the OS makers are greedy AF, and don’t stop at requiring notarization. Windows could get rid of most of its malware issues if they allowed everyone to freely notarize, yet they try and ram the Windows Store down everyone’s throat with their locked down Windows attempts. Can’t let a feature get in the way of a play at even more rent-seeking, am I right ?

Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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Windows? Oh I'd forgotten about that giggles behind Linux desktop

You've forgotten about the most popular OS on this planet? I wouldn't take an OS recommendation from a person who happened to forget about that.

Sorry to have offended you - it was intended in humour as I have switched from using Windows as a daily driver and now I'm happily using Fedora. But don't worry, you can continue to use whatever you prefer.

Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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post #105

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> Maybe I'm too old, but since when is simply using another software as opposed to built-ins considered modding? Most of these seem like replacements to me. ExplorerPatcher /is/ modding. It's not killing explorer.exe and launching another UI that is independent from the os like, say, what blackbox for windows or litestep did. It's patching running executables in memory in a way that could break whenever any data stru…

> You surely don't expect this to survive all future refactorings and cleanups? The Win10 bar code has been there, since October 2021, though? I don't know how frequent refactorings are (at M$FT) but given it's been there for nigh three years, I don't see how that's a relevant factor. Even _if_ it were refactored (and/or cleaned-up), it wouldn't be omitted from the release notes, right? Unless it's on the roadmap _fo…

> The Win10 bar code has been there, since October 2021, though?

And it could be removed tomorrow. That's the point.

Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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post #24

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How good is running Windows in a VM with a Linux host nowadays? Does it work well for office users who want to run Office? How about people who want to run Adobe or Autodesk software? These use cases seem to be causing the most friction for the transition in my circles (apart from gaming, which is a different story).

If you have the hardware for it, VFIO setups can be amazing. I've been running graphics accelerated Windows inside a VM for a few months now, and apart for some random crashes, it's perfect. I've been using Capture One (lightroom alternative) and Affinity Photo 2 inside the VM and it's been great. Haven't really tried video editing, but it might not be as great.

How exactly does graphic acceleration work when you run a VM? Do you need two graphic cards (one for the host, another for the guest)?

Edit: to contribute a little to the grandparent question - I have Windows on QEMU for the Office suite and it works pretty smoothly. I had to make some config changes, most of them outlined in these reddit threads:

https://www.reddit.com/r/qemu_kvm/comments/18z8609/qemu_wind...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChromeOSFlex/comments/ucno4b/qemukv...

I also disabled animations in Windows settings because everything felt clunky.

No crashes, clipboard and shared folders work fine after installing guest tools.

Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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Expecting this to be continuously possible on a proprietary OS is a lost cause. Even the LLM world has practically mirrored this.

It was possible for literal decades, what are you going on about?

It was also possible to install an OS without needing to create an account.

Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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If you have the hardware for it, VFIO setups can be amazing. I've been running graphics accelerated Windows inside a VM for a few months now, and apart for some random crashes, it's perfect. I've been using Capture One (lightroom alternative) and Affinity Photo 2 inside the VM and it's been great. Haven't really tried video editing, but it might not be as great.

How exactly does graphic acceleration work when you run a VM? Do you need two graphic cards (one for the host, another for the guest)? Edit: to contribute a little to the grandparent question - I have Windows on QEMU for the Office suite and it works pretty smoothly. I had to make some config changes, most of them outlined in these reddit threads: https://www.reddit.com/r/qemu_kvm/comments/18z8609/qemu_wind... https:…

Very good info, I am also planning to set something up over QEMU.

Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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Steam/Valve made a point of running Windows games under Linux as good or better as under.Windows. that is, Wine and Proton are really good these days. Running genuine MS Windows® in a VM is very possible but much less necessary than, say, 10 years ago, if you want to run some non-esoteric Windows software. It also technically requires a license.

They asked about Office, Adobe, and Autodesk. I’d say the situation is still the opposite there. In the early 00s, you could run Microsoft Office etc. pretty well with CrossOver Office and the likes. But these applications barely work anymore if at all, most likely because their complexity increased a lot over the years. Using a Windows VM is a pretty good solution. Though last time I tried only commercial solutions…

Interesting about KVM limitations, because I am constrained to use that. VirtualBox... yes indeed, Oracle.

Re: Microsoft blocks even more customization apps in Windows 11 version 24H2

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post #110

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Widevine kind of works on Linux IIRC, but hardware accelerated VP9 decode is a huge issue still. It was fine for a while, then Google broke support in Chromium and made it work only in their ecosystem (ChromeOS).

>Widevine kind of works on Linux IIRC Haven't looked at it in a while, but last I did it "worked". Resolution on netflix ends up being fine - 1080p - but I couldn't help shake the feeling that its worse. ...check bitrates and sure enough...less than half. Never worked out why, but that's a bit of a show stopper when combined with no online shooters.

Not the first time something like this has happened. You can try lying about your User Agent next time, it could work!

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/07/microsofts-xcloud-gam...

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