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Re: So you wanna de-bog yourself

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Post by jaredhallen »

PaulHoule wrote: post #15
hailmac wrote: post #13

Functionally not that different from a listicle - and at least those aren't so concerned with sounding smart

He has "history" in the name of his blog and he thinks that knights expected to fight dragons? I mean, it is like that in a manga but not in real life. Quite a few knights in the day were nobles who had large landed estates to manage but were expected to impress their peasants in time of war. They were lucky enough to go to war with heavy armor and mounted on a horse whereas the peasants might get some weapon that is…

Maybe I'm being too generous, but I didn't take that to be meant in a literal, historical sense. I mean for the purpose of metaphor, a literary trope is just as good as factually accurate history. The point is that people can relate.

Re: So you wanna de-bog yourself

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Post by BlueTemplar »

sedivy94 wrote: post #34
BlueTemplar wrote: post #19

I've recently watched for the first time Neon Genesis Evangelion (+ The End of...), and powerful (and a bit painful) art like this seems to be a good slap in the face to get out of at least some of the versions of that bog - I'm a bit sad that I didn't watch it years earlier when I was stuck in some bogs... (Another commenter there mentions a quote recommending books - great literature I'm pretty sure in that context…

Fellow Neon Genesis fan here. Watching the original series was an incredibly frustrating experience for me. It does not follow the typical hero’s journey. There few wins, if any. Mostly losses. Idiot Shinji was a helpless and pitiful protagonist, so much so that you eventually stop rooting for him. The 1.11, 2.22, 3.33, and 3.0+1.0 rebuilds were much, much better in my opinion. But they also lacked that depressing tr…

> But they also lacked that depressing trajectory that made the original series so unique.

Agree. Also, in that end, there's hope, even if the characters are still flawed, they have been forced to confront their issues and illusions, and (finally) are set on a realistically human path of growth.

> The 1.11, 2.22, 3.33, and 3.0+1.0 rebuilds were much, much better in my opinion.

Disagree, because of the above. Sure, plenty of eye candy (of both kinds), but it's gratuitous in Rebuilds. The "biblical" (mid-)themes are even more confusing. The character growth is only kind of earned if you actually watched the originals (with maybe the (tragic) exception of latest Rei and "dad", who finally does get a redemption arc). And even there, at a cost, as all the suffering of old Asuka (and our whiplash of empathizing with her) has basically been erased along with her original, all the while the new pilot, Mari, is never fleshed out, so her being there at the end doesn't feel earned, with her having been all along weirdly untraumatized and also hot for Shinji (gratuitous again). Many main characters literally get wished into a fairy tale ending.

Re: So you wanna de-bog yourself

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Post by _factor »

Satam wrote: post #46
swatcoder wrote: post #37

Ironically, the root of most "bogging" is thinking too much instead of just doing things that need doing or that ripely present themselves. The author has reflected so much that they've created a bespoke system of abstract beliefs with catchy names and various example cases that they can summarize into a 5000 word essay and probably even extend into a book. For a writer, that's a sneaky but effective way to do their…

Before reading the article, I was nodding along reading your comment. Having read the article... it's actually pretty good! "Just doing things" might be the right general approach but I feel that sometimes it's easy to get stuck contemplating. I think the post offers some interesting heuristics for getting unstuck. Edit: Reading even further, it's actually one of the best posts of this kind I've read in years. The au…

My biggest problem is contemplating all of the steps and future work that will go into a project, then getting disheartened as I begin. Eventually I delude myself into believing it’s not worth the effort as it might fail anyway.

It’s probably a self-confidence thing, but so are most of the funny names in the article.

I should probably just focus on step one once I decide the end result is valuable.

Re: So you wanna de-bog yourself

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Post by carlinm »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #19

I've recently watched for the first time Neon Genesis Evangelion (+ The End of...), and powerful (and a bit painful) art like this seems to be a good slap in the face to get out of at least some of the versions of that bog - I'm a bit sad that I didn't watch it years earlier when I was stuck in some bogs... (Another commenter there mentions a quote recommending books - great literature I'm pretty sure in that context…

“The Unbearable Lightness of Being” is just fantastic. I think it’s well worth your time. I’ve read it a few times now. With each subsequent read at a different point in my life, it’s been interesting to see new insights and perspectives emerge. If you end liking it, another one from Kundera I particularly enjoyed was “The Book of Laughter and Forgetting”.

Re: So you wanna de-bog yourself

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Post by hungariantoast »

weregiraffe wrote: post #67
barfbagginus wrote: post #39

First, debog your blog by removing the enshittware Second, start working to deconstruct capitalism and the state Tada, u no longer feel bogged

>Second, start working to deconstruct capitalism and the state Or just kill yourself, it will achieve the same result, but faster.

Deconstructing capitalism and the state = killing yourself?

Deconstructing capitalism but preserving the state = purging millions of people?

Preserving capitalism and the state = killing millions of poor people?

Preserving capitalism but deconstructing the state = killing millions of poor people, but cyberpunk?

Re: So you wanna de-bog yourself

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Post by barrysteve »

sedivy94 wrote: post #34
BlueTemplar wrote: post #19

I've recently watched for the first time Neon Genesis Evangelion (+ The End of...), and powerful (and a bit painful) art like this seems to be a good slap in the face to get out of at least some of the versions of that bog - I'm a bit sad that I didn't watch it years earlier when I was stuck in some bogs... (Another commenter there mentions a quote recommending books - great literature I'm pretty sure in that context…

Fellow Neon Genesis fan here. Watching the original series was an incredibly frustrating experience for me. It does not follow the typical hero’s journey. There few wins, if any. Mostly losses. Idiot Shinji was a helpless and pitiful protagonist, so much so that you eventually stop rooting for him. The 1.11, 2.22, 3.33, and 3.0+1.0 rebuilds were much, much better in my opinion. But they also lacked that depressing tr…

Oh come on. If Shinji's father had given him a 15 minute brief and debrief for every battle, that job would have been another day in the office for Shinji.

He could of had a normal life, but the show sets him up to be trapped in hyper emotional relationships, influencing him to make irrational decisions all the time.

He's a high school guy being manipulated by everyone around him, to fight battles he doesn't understand.

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