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A lazy and flippant classification of programming languages

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Re: A lazy and flippant classification of programming languages

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Post by bee_rider »

Surely we can be more flippant than that. There are three-ish types of languages:

C, Assembly: begrudging respect, they are ok for writing kernels (operating system and compute, respectively).

FORTRAN: the point of computers is to do math, why do you need any other language than the language for FORmula TRANslation?

Other languages: Bad.

Honorable mention: Matlab/Octave or Numpy because I can’t be arsed to use a proper language while prototyping. But you can also use them in REPL mode so really they are halfway between a programming language and a UI.

Re: A lazy and flippant classification of programming languages

#15

Post by vajrabum »

bee_rider wrote: post #11

Surely we can be more flippant than that. There are three-ish types of languages: C, Assembly: begrudging respect, they are ok for writing kernels (operating system and compute, respectively). FORTRAN: the point of computers is to do math, why do you need any other language than the language for FORmula TRANslation? Other languages: Bad. Honorable mention: Matlab/Octave or Numpy because I can’t be arsed to use a prop…

'At scale' numpy is often faster and safer than your other choices because CUDA is pretty much a magic sauce for your numerical programming needs.

Re: A lazy and flippant classification of programming languages

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Post by w10-1 »

CalChris wrote: post #6

Swift is an honorary C language. Fortran is an emeritus C language.

Swift would be the one ring to rule them all, from assembly builtin's to ORM's, running from 32-bit controllers and secure enclave to automatic differentiation on internet-scale fp16 models... if it weren't for Xcode...

Re: A lazy and flippant classification of programming languages

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Post by sirwhinesalot »

w10-1 wrote: post #16
CalChris wrote: post #6

Swift is an honorary C language. Fortran is an emeritus C language.

Swift would be the one ring to rule them all, from assembly builtin's to ORM's, running from 32-bit controllers and secure enclave to automatic differentiation on internet-scale fp16 models... if it weren't for Xcode...

I have no idea how developers for the apple ecosystem get anything done. If Xcode doesn't crash it's because it is too busy glitching out instead.

Re: A lazy and flippant classification of programming languages

#19

Post by PartiallyTyped »

vajrabum wrote: post #15
bee_rider wrote: post #11

Surely we can be more flippant than that. There are three-ish types of languages: C, Assembly: begrudging respect, they are ok for writing kernels (operating system and compute, respectively). FORTRAN: the point of computers is to do math, why do you need any other language than the language for FORmula TRANslation? Other languages: Bad. Honorable mention: Matlab/Octave or Numpy because I can’t be arsed to use a prop…

'At scale' numpy is often faster and safer than your other choices because CUDA is pretty much a magic sauce for your numerical programming needs.

Does numpy have a cuda backend without numba?

Re: A lazy and flippant classification of programming languages

#20

Post by bee_rider »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #19
vajrabum wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'At scale' numpy is often faster and safer than your other choices because CUDA is pretty much a magic sauce for your numerical programming needs.

Does numpy have a cuda backend without numba?

Cupy covers some of Numpy and some Scipy. IIRC you can even get it working by just changing the import and adding a little boilerplate, in some cases.
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